X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3863565 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:24:59 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.81; envelope-from=rotary@cmowens.com Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090923182412.IQYW6957.mta21.charter.net@imp10> for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:24:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([24.241.157.64]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id kJQA1c00N1Pewrc05JQBls; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:24:12 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UX7OYE2mAAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=PQltwI9NklFOh9Qlh5YA:9 a=FSiAc-YE6YBMLvTb1TUA:7 a=gCwhqTpVsTfjZID5UbUdZfjvlCYA:4 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Hl1Gy0H5AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=mnI68a25AOgnqhmZHm8A:9 a=FAFTYX6PWCcxLs_S1bEA:7 a=PS4bgOp9czsVBobZ07LdVJpCH2wA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-545157212 Message-Id: <6ECF2018-810D-411A-AD32-9A03A8C44771@cmowens.com> From: Christopher Owens Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: [FlyRotary] Re: Headsets Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:24:24 -0500 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) --Apple-Mail-1-545157212 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Not sure about some of the other in-ear headsets, but I fly with the Clarity Aloft headset and have for a couple of years. It's got an expanding foam tip that's attached to the ear tube, similar to foam expanding earplugs, only softer. I can't say that I've had any problems with pressure equalization, perhaps because of the porous nature of the foam. But then again, I don't usually fly above 4000 ft anyway :-) But I will say that they are fabulously comfortable, especially on a hot day. Best regards, Chris On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Steve Thomas wrote: > But, these ear-plug type of headsets need to have some facility for > equalizing air pressure in the ear. I believe with the Clarity > headsets, you need to pull them out every-so-often to let the air > pressure equalize (though don't quote me on that.) For most > helicopter operations, this is a non-issue. > > Best Regards, > > Steve Thomas > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich wrote: > >> >> Mike, >> Their similar to the Clarity Aloft headsets which use hearing aid >> ear plugs - bloody good idea. >> George ( down under) >> OK Al, sorry about that. I read everything from Fly Rotary so >> rarely pay attention to the subject line - even when I'm the >> subject originator. >> >> George, the Bose is $1000 and the Zulu is $850. Until I flew with >> the Zulu I wouldnt have believed it was worth it. >> >> One more possibility. Anyone familiar with these: >> >> http://www.anr-headsets.com:80/Html_folder/CEP.html >> >> I had a DAR inspect my glider a few months ago. He flew down in an >> open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a terrible time hearing comms >> and these solved those problems. He reported that it worked better >> than any ANR headset he'd ever tried. >> >> Mike Wills >> RV-4 N144MW >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: George Lendich >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:12 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... >> >> Mike, >> As you might be aware, we pay significantly more here in Aus for >> such equipment, can you tell me what the Bose -X and the Zulu go >> for in the states. >> George (down under) >> >> My headset is the original Lightspeed 20K - about 12 years old and >> still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K swapping back and forth >> between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The 33K is slightly >> better than my old 20K, but not enough to justify upgrading. >> >> I borrowed another friend's Lightspeed Zulu a few weeks ago and >> flew with it in the RV for about an hour. Significantly better >> than my 20K and I plan on making that upgrade once I can scare up >> the cash. >> >> Another friend has the Bose which he just bought. Havent been able >> to talk him out of it yet for a test flight but I hope to. >> >> Mike Wills >> RV-4 N144MW >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Steve Thomas >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:40 AM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... >> >> Is there anyone out there with a Lightspeed Zulu that can report >> on its effectiveness? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Steve Thomas >> _______________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: >> >>> Lightspeed 33G. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Thomas >>> wrote: >>> Mark, >>> >>> Which ANR do you use? >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Steve Thomas >>> _______________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 21, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: >>> >>>> Good report Mike. I know what you mean about a quieter >>>> muffler. My ANR headset does a good job of killing the low >>>> frequencies, but a poor job on the higher frequencies. The >>>> rotary has both. So take your pick, turn the ANR on and listen >>>> to the high frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low >>>> rumble. If I could only find an ANR that can do both I would be >>>> a happy camper. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Wills >>>> wrote: >>>> I added another 1.3 hours to my total flight time today. And for >>>> the first time I landed and was completely satisfied with the >>>> flight. I'd still like to quiet it down a little, but this was >>>> the first flight where I didnt feel like there was anything that >>>> had to be fixed before the next flight. Even the landing was >>>> pretty decent. >>>> >>>> I've got just over 9 hours of flight time and about 40 hours of >>>> engine run time now. So far all of my flight time has been >>>> directly over the airport because to venture away requires >>>> flying over about 50 miles of mostly unlandable mountainous >>>> terrain. But I'm starting to think seriously about stretching >>>> the legs a little... >>>> >>>> Mike Wills >>>> RV-4 N144MW >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-1-545157212 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Not sure about some of the other in-ear headsets, but I fly with = the Clarity Aloft headset and have for a couple of years.  It's got = an expanding foam tip that's attached to the ear tube, similar to foam = expanding earplugs, only softer.  I can't say that I've had any = problems with pressure equalization, perhaps because of the porous = nature of the foam.  But then again, I don't usually fly above 4000 = ft anyway :-)

But I will say that they are = fabulously comfortable, especially on a hot = day.

Best = regards,
Chris


On Sep 23, = 2009, at 9:05 AM, Steve Thomas wrote:

But, these = ear-plug type of headsets need to have some facility for equalizing air = pressure in the ear.  I believe with the Clarity headsets, you need = to pull them out every-so-often to let the air pressure equalize (though = don't quote me on that.)  For most helicopter operations, this is a = non-issue.

Best Regards,

Steve = Thomas




=

On = Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich wrote:

 
 Mike,
Their similar to the Clarity Aloft headsets which use hearing = aid ear plugs - bloody good idea.
George ( down under)
OK Al, sorry about that. I read everything from Fly Rotary so = rarely pay attention to the subject line - even when I'm the subject = originator.
 
George,= the Bose is $1000 and the Zulu is $850. Until I flew with the Zulu I = wouldnt have believed it was worth it.
 
One more possibility. Anyone familiar with = these:
 
 
I had a DAR inspect my glider a few months ago. He flew down = in an open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a terrible time hearing comms = and these solved those problems. He reported that it worked better than = any ANR headset he'd ever tried.
 
Mike = Wills
RV-4 = N144MW
----- = Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 = 9:12 PM
 [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to = report...

Mike,
As you = might be aware, we pay significantly more here in Aus for such = equipment, can you tell me what the Bose -X and the Zulu go for in the = states.
George (down = under)
 
My headset is the original Lightspeed 20K - about 12 years = old and still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K swapping back and forth = between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The 33K is slightly better = than my old 20K, but not enough to justify = upgrading.
 
I borrowed another friend's Lightspeed Zulu a = few weeks ago and flew with it in the RV for about an hour. = Significantly better than my 20K and I plan on making that upgrade once = I can scare up the cash.
 
Another= friend has the Bose which he just bought. Havent been able to talk him = out of it yet for a test flight but I hope to.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- = Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 = 8:40 AM
 [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to = report...

Is there anyone out there with a = Lightspeed Zulu that can report on its effectiveness?

Best = Regards,

Steve = Thomas
_______________________________________________________
=




=

On Sep = 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle wrote:

Lightspeed 33G.


 
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Thomas <glasair2@me.com> wrote:

Best = Regards,

Steve = Thomas
Good report Mike.  I know what you mean about a = quieter muffler.  My ANR headset does a good job of killing the low = frequencies, but a poor job on the higher frequencies.  The rotary = has both.  So take your pick, turn the ANR on and listen = to the high frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low = rumble.  If I could only find an ANR that can do both I would be a = happy camper. 
 
Mark

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net> wrote:
I added another 1.3 hours to my total flight = time today. And for the first time I landed and was completely satisfied = with the flight. I'd still like to quiet it down a little, but this was = the first flight where I didnt feel like there was anything that had to = be fixed before the next flight. Even the landing was pretty = decent.
 
I've = got just over 9 hours of flight time and about 40 hours of engine = run time now. So far all of my flight time has been directly over = the airport because to venture away requires flying over about 50 miles = of mostly unlandable mountainous terrain. But I'm starting to think = seriously about stretching the legs a little...
 
Mike = Wills
RV-4 = N144MW

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