X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.220.210] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3834236 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:10:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.210; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1240659fxm.19 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=10m7lJi6Q0vaVQblU8tMNLR0BvK8EA24PS9Xiwg54o4=; b=aTnR8bvnjeWqDpF9nav9hpw9N1Cb4iddtA8O28+i21FE0OReskP6buqDZv4fdK0fWg Rof4XdddHXs8JCAjSP9+RIy/256M1aG86zkSh/PH86ddSx4m8oEoKqCN8rbwZob2YAEP lRj8RaTbfntRcODvNXCg5N40n0sVUJ2GEckTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dGkGewsshmA3yAdhT+ujg22eBI0zg9Vxflofbr5CF4f3r+6Ia3TSmHfH+p2hqfVpyD RxHSmrZIU39hHYBwCl701UsCTQm2paVs7el0v9ahbHPPLeLhIU783IObLY/XYQ6Gn84Q pl5WA7XsWcDVH8qKok2w/aHRMTHyFA5NHolIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.29.24 with SMTP id o24mr7411744bkc.85.1251943803111; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:10:03 -0500 Message-ID: <5cf132c0909021910q517afa7aj77ff10cd4b41d25e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] I hate when this list is quiet.....sooooo..... From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555e41ea9ca5e0472a2e1f3 --00032555e41ea9ca5e0472a2e1f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Chris, At least you have a nice long runway to do some fast taxi runs and/or crow hops in anticipation of first flight. Just don't get carried away and go off the far end of the runway. Oouch! Mark On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Chris Barber wrote: > Nope, still chasing gremlins. I am having an issue with the secondary > injectors causing the engine to quite when I hit about 20 inches Manifold > pressure/4000 rpm. If I turn the secondaries off, the power soars back and > will get me in the high 5000 rpm and low 6000's rpm static. This is not a > mere "bog". I have been reading the archives to get some direction. > However, most of the comments are on bog, not it running so badly it wants > to shutdown. I did not have too much time to check, but I think the staging > point seems to have moved to about 20 inches...the same place as this rough > patch on the secondaries (asterisk disappears at this point). Seems like it > is flooding with fuel...donno. I have all the same size injectors now. The > ones that Mistral recommends for their intake, which I am using. > > It was working fine a couple of weeks ago....as I reported. Donno what > happened. I may reset since I have not done any tuning and a couple of map > settings seemed to have changed. It was running PERFECT on the default > settings when I first installed it when I got the EC2/EM2 back from Tracy a > few weeks back. Again don't know why. I did find a problem with one of my > two B&C regulators. It has been repaired and according to the phone call I > got today, is on its way back to me. Not likely directly related, but until > I get that solved everything else is suspect. > > I also gotta do some other pesky chores like set the wing/canard > incidences, properly secure wire runs, get some longer bolts to properly > secure my alternators with castle nuts etc. I have a VERY short list (about > 8 items) that I copied on a yellow note pad of items I pulled from the > manual. Things like fit wheel pants, apply blue locktite to door pins (as > to not have them unscrew in the closed position trapping you in plane), > > Have everything else in the manual completed (OMG, I really do. > WOW....like John Slade has said, if the me of six years ago could see the me > of today, he would be damn impressed ). Also, I need to wire my panel. > I have been keeping the avionics (Dual King 125, Dynon D100 etc stored until > I get the electrical stuff sorted out. However, that may only take a bit o' > time to at least get it set enough to fly VFR day....all I am currently > rated at. Kinda scary though that if'n I ever get the engine to behave > properly/consistently/reliably, I am pretty damn close > > I reconnected the control surfaces the other day so when I make airplane > noises, I can have my controls move too.......yeah, responsible, mature, > cop, attorney, airplane builder, armature engineer and pilot.....can't cha > tell????? > > All the best, > > Chris > > Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD > Badge 330 > Bellaire Police Department > 5110 Jessamine > Bellaire, Texas 77401 > > 713-668-0487 > 713-662-8289 fax > > CBarber@BellairePolice.com > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Mark Steitle > *Sent:* Wed 9/2/2009 4:16 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET !! > > So, when is the big day (maiden flight). Do you have a date set with the > DAR yet? > > Mark > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chris Barber wrote: > >> Nah. Just envious of all the places you can land that I would be >> foolish to even try. Of course, I actually have to fly before I can land >> ....kinda works that way. >> >> Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD >> Badge 330 >> Bellaire Police Department >> 5110 Jessamine >> Bellaire, Texas 77401 >> >> 713-668-0487 >> 713-662-8289 fax >> >> CBarber@BellairePolice.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Mark Steitle >> *Sent:* Wed 9/2/2009 2:54 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET !! >> >> "easy-land"* RV* ??? >> >> I think I've just been insulted... >> >> Mark >> Lancair ES >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Chris Barber wrote: >> >>> Ha Ha...yeah, I know sqeeeeeeezing in a mere 9002 feet can be a >>> challenge. Got look out for the arrester cables for the Navy jets....and, >>> be careful if the Shuttle is up as I believe it is one of the many alt >>> landing strips. You ought to think about it in a canard and not a >>> "easy-land" RV >>> >>> My cell is 832-818-CELL (2355).....that can be used by any who may want >>> to pay a visit.....oh, and you will pay...in shared knowledge I hope. I got >>> dinner >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD >>> Badge 330 >>> Bellaire Police Department >>> 5110 Jessamine >>> Bellaire, Texas 77401 >>> >>> 713-668-0487 >>> 713-662-8289 fax >>> >>> CBarber@BellairePolice.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Mark Steitle >>> *Sent:* Wed 9/2/2009 2:17 PM >>> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >>> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET !! >>> >>> >>> Well, I don't know Chris, I'm a little leary of landing on such short >>> runways. I would have to practice up on my short field technique first. >>> Besides, rumor has it that there are a bunch of little gremlins lurking >>> around EFD waiting to pounce on anything that comes within 100 yards of your >>> hangar. ;0) >>> Seriously, send me your phone number and I'll give you a call one weekend >>> when I'm in need of somewhere to go. >>> >>> Mark >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Christopher Barber < >>> CBarber@texasattorney.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Well dang it Mark....Houston is not that far a hop then, now is >>>> it??????? Ellington Field (EFD) is a great little-big airport despite >>>> the fact it is run by the city. Have Astronauts tooling around >>>> routinely....that is if helping a fellow rotor-head with a fresh set of eyes >>>> is not enough ;-) >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> Mark Steitle wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kelly, >>>>> I guess it is just you and me at the moment. I have been flying my >>>>> 3-rotor Lancair pretty much every chance I get. It is showing 139.7 hrs on >>>>> the Hobbs. I've been as far north as Denver, and two weeks ago flew it down >>>>> to Port Aransas, TX. Cooling could use some improvement in order to keep >>>>> flying during the hot Texas summers. But I'm working on that. Stay >>>>> tuned... >>>>> Mark >>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Kelly Troyer >>>> keltro@att.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Any One Out There ??.................... >>>>> -- >>>>> Kelly Troyer >>>>> "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine >>>>> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 >>>>> "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: >>>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> Warning: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous >>> e-mails attached to it, may contain confidential information that is legally >>> privileged. 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Chris,
=A0
At least you have a nice long runway to do some fast taxi runs and/or = crow hops in anticipation of first flight.=A0 Just don't get carried aw= ay and go off the far end of the runway.=A0 Oouch!
=A0
Mark

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@be= llairepolice.com> wrote:
Nope, st= ill chasing gremlins.=A0 I am having an issue with the secondary injectors = causing the engine to quite when I hit about 20 inches Manifold pressure/40= 00 rpm.=A0 If I turn the secondaries off, the power soars back and will get= me in the high 5000 rpm and low 6000's rpm static.=A0 This is not a me= re "bog".=A0 I have been reading the archives to get some directi= on.=A0 However, most of the comments are on bog, not it running so badly it= wants to shutdown.=A0 I did not have too much time to check, but I think t= he staging point seems to have moved to about 20 inches...the same place as= this rough patch on the secondaries (asterisk disappears at this point).= =A0 Seems like it is flooding with fuel...donno.=A0 I have all the same siz= e injectors now.=A0 The ones that Mistral recommends for their intake, whic= h I am using.
=A0
It was working fine a coup= le of weeks ago....as I reported.=A0 Donno what happened.=A0 I may reset si= nce I have not done any tuning and a couple of map settings seemed to have = changed.=A0 It was running PERFECT on the default settings when I=A0first i= nstalled it when I got the EC2/EM2 back from Tracy a few weeks back. Again = don't know why.=A0 I did find a problem with one of my two=A0B&C re= gulators.=A0 It has been repaired and according to the phone call I got tod= ay, is on its way back to me. Not likely directly related, but until I get = that solved everything else is suspect.
=A0
I also gotta do some other= pesky chores like set the wing/canard incidences, properly secure wire run= s, get some longer bolts to properly secure my alternators with castle nuts= etc.=A0 I have=A0a VERY short list (about 8=A0items) that I copied on a ye= llow note pad of=A0items I pulled from the manual.=A0=A0Things like fit whe= el pants, apply blue locktite to door pins (as to not have them unscrew in = the closed position trapping you in plane),
=A0
Have everything else in th= e manual completed (OMG, I really do.=A0 WOW....like John Slade has said, i= f the me of six years ago could see the me of today, he would be damn impre= ssed <g>).=A0 Also, I need to wire my panel.=A0 I have been keeping t= he avionics (Dual King 125, Dynon D100 etc stored until I get the electrica= l stuff sorted out.=A0 However, that may only take a bit=A0o' time to a= t least get it set enough to fly VFR day....all I am currently rated=A0at. = =A0Kinda scary though that if'n I ever get the engine to behave properl= y/consistently/reliably, I am pretty damn close <yikes>
=A0
I reconnected the control = surfaces the other day so when I make airplane noises, I can have my contro= ls move too.......yeah, responsible, mature, cop, attorney, airplane builde= r, armature engineer=A0and pilot.....can't cha tell?????
=A0
All the best,
=A0
Chris
= =A0
Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD
Badge 330
Bellaire Police Department
5110 Jessamine
Bellaire, Texas 77401
=A0
713-668-0487
713-662-8289 fax
=A0
CBarber@BellairePolice.com

From: Rotary motors in aircraft on = behalf of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 4:16 PM
To: R= otary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET != !

So, when is the big day (maiden flight).=A0=A0Do you have a date=A0set= with the DAR yet?=A0
=A0
Mark

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@bellairepolice.com> wrote:
Nah.=A0 = Just envious of all the places you can land that I would be foolish to even= try.=A0 Of course, I actually have to fly before I can land <g>....k= inda works that way.
= =A0
Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD
Badge 330
Bellaire Police Department
5110 Jessamine
Bellaire, Texas 77401
=A0
713-668-0487
713-662-8289 fax
=A0
CBarber@BellairePolice.com

From: Rotary motors in aircraft on = behalf of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 2:54 PM
To: R= otary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET != !

=A0"easy-land" RV ???
=A0
I think I've just been insulted...
=A0
Mark
Lancair ES

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@bellairepolice.com> wrote:
Ha Ha...= yeah, I know sqeeeeeeezing in a mere 9002 feet can be a challenge.=A0 Got l= ook out for the arrester cables for the Navy jets....and, be careful if the= Shuttle is up as I believe it is one of the many alt landing strips.=A0 Yo= u ought to think about it in a canard and not a "easy-land" RV &l= t;g>
=A0
My cell is 832-818-CELL (2= 355).....that can be used by any who may want to pay a visit.....oh, and yo= u will pay...in shared knowledge I hope.=A0 I got dinner <g>
=A0
All the best,
=A0
Chris
= =A0
Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD
Badge 330
Bellaire Police Department
5110 Jessamine
Bellaire, Texas 77401
=A0
713-668-0487
713-662-8289 fax
=A0
CBarber@BellairePolice.com

From: Rotary motors in aircraft on = behalf of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 2:17 PM
To: R= otary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET != !

=A0
Well, I don't know Chris, I'm a little leary of landing on suc= h short runways.=A0 I would have to practice up on my short field technique= first.=A0 Besides, rumor has it that there are a bunch of little gremlins = lurking around EFD=A0waiting to pounce on anything that=A0comes within 100 = yards of your hangar.=A0 ;0)
Seriously, send me your phone number and I'll give you a call one = weekend when I'm in need of somewhere to go.=A0
=A0
Mark
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Christopher Barb= er <CBarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:
Well dang it Mark....Houston is = not that far a hop then, now is it??????? <g> =A0Ellington Field (EFD= ) is a great little-big airport despite the fact it is run by the city. =A0= Have Astronauts tooling around routinely....that is if helping a fellow rot= or-head with a fresh set of eyes is not enough ;-)

All the best,

Chris

Mark Steitle wrote:
Kelly,
=A0I guess it is just you and me at the moment. =A0I have be= en flying my 3-rotor Lancair pretty much every chance I get. =A0It is showi= ng 139.7 hrs on the Hobbs. =A0I've been as far north as Denver, and two= weeks ago flew it down to Port Aransas, TX. =A0Cooling could use some impr= ovement in order to keep flying during the hot Texas summers. =A0But I'= m working on that. =A0Stay tuned...
=A0Mark
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net <mailto:keltro@att.net>> wrote:
=
=A0 =A0Any One Out There ??....................
=A0 =A0--
=A0 =A0Kell= y Troyer
=A0 =A0"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
=A0 =A0"= ;RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
=A0 =A0"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d





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