X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3833949 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:20:04 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@bellairepolice.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:19:29 -0500 From: "Chris Barber" Subject: I hate when this list is quiet.....sooooo..... To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" , "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: I hate when this list is quiet.....sooooo..... Thread-Index: AcosEsWR23AC3yjWTdiZam4mCWrncgABRD0v References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA2C1B.70790940" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA2C1B.70790940 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nope, still chasing gremlins. I am having an issue with the secondary in= jectors causing the engine to quite when I hit about 20 inches Manifold p= ressure/4000 rpm. If I turn the secondaries off, the power soars back an= d will get me in the high 5000 rpm and low 6000's rpm static. This is no= t a mere "bog". I have been reading the archives to get some direction. = However, most of the comments are on bog, not it running so badly it wan= ts to shutdown. I did not have too much time to check, but I think the s= taging point seems to have moved to about 20 inches...the same place as t= his rough patch on the secondaries (asterisk disappears at this point). = Seems like it is flooding with fuel...donno. I have all the same size in= jectors now. The ones that Mistral recommends for their intake, which I = am using. =20 It was working fine a couple of weeks ago....as I reported. Donno what h= appened. I may reset since I have not done any tuning and a couple of ma= p settings seemed to have changed. It was running PERFECT on the default= settings when I first installed it when I got the EC2/EM2 back from Trac= y a few weeks back. Again don't know why. I did find a problem with one = of my two B&C regulators. It has been repaired and according to the phon= e call I got today, is on its way back to me. Not likely directly related= , but until I get that solved everything else is suspect. =20 I also gotta do some other pesky chores like set the wing/canard incidenc= es, properly secure wire runs, get some longer bolts to properly secure m= y alternators with castle nuts etc. I have a VERY short list (about 8 it= ems) that I copied on a yellow note pad of items I pulled from the manual= =2E Things like fit wheel pants, apply blue locktite to door pins (as to= not have them unscrew in the closed position trapping you in plane),=20 =20 Have everything else in the manual completed (OMG, I really do. WOW....l= ike John Slade has said, if the me of six years ago could see the me of t= oday, he would be damn impressed ). Also, I need to wire my panel. I= have been keeping the avionics (Dual King 125, Dynon D100 etc stored unt= il I get the electrical stuff sorted out. However, that may only take a = bit o' time to at least get it set enough to fly VFR day....all I am curr= ently rated at. Kinda scary though that if'n I ever get the engine to be= have properly/consistently/reliably, I am pretty damn close =20 I reconnected the control surfaces the other day so when I make airplane = noises, I can have my controls move too.......yeah, responsible, mature, = cop, attorney, airplane builder, armature engineer and pilot.....can't ch= a tell????? =20 All the best, =20 Chris =20 Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD Badge 330 Bellaire Police Department 5110 Jessamine Bellaire, Texas 77401 =20 713-668-0487 713-662-8289 fax =20 CBarber@BellairePolice.com ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Mark Steitle Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 4:16 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET !! So, when is the big day (maiden flight). Do you have a date set with the= DAR yet? =20 =20 Mark On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chris Barber = wrote: Nah. Just envious of all the places you can land that I would be foolis= h to even try. Of course, I actually have to fly before I can land ..= =2E.kinda works that way. =20 Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD Badge 330 Bellaire Police Department 5110 Jessamine Bellaire, Texas 77401 =20 713-668-0487 713-662-8289 fax =20 CBarber@BellairePolice.com ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Mark Steitle Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 2:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET !! =09 =09 "easy-land" RV ??? =20 I think I've just been insulted... =20 Mark Lancair ES =09 =09 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Chris Barber wrote: =09 Ha Ha...yeah, I know sqeeeeeeezing in a mere 9002 feet can be a challen= ge. Got look out for the arrester cables for the Navy jets....and, be ca= reful if the Shuttle is up as I believe it is one of the many alt landing= strips. You ought to think about it in a canard and not a "easy-land" R= V =20 My cell is 832-818-CELL (2355).....that can be used by any who may want= to pay a visit.....oh, and you will pay...in shared knowledge I hope. I= got dinner =20 All the best, =20 Chris =20 Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD Badge 330 Bellaire Police Department 5110 Jessamine Bellaire, Texas 77401 =20 713-668-0487 713-662-8289 fax =20 CBarber@BellairePolice.com ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Mark Steitle Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 2:17 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET !! =09 =09 =20 Well, I don't know Chris, I'm a little leary of landing on such short r= unways. I would have to practice up on my short field technique first. = Besides, rumor has it that there are a bunch of little gremlins lurking a= round EFD waiting to pounce on anything that comes within 100 yards of yo= ur hangar. ;0) =09 Seriously, send me your phone number and I'll give you a call one weeke= nd when I'm in need of somewhere to go. =20 =20 Mark =09 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Christopher Barber wrote: =09 Well dang it Mark....Houston is not that far a hop then, now is it????= ??? Ellington Field (EFD) is a great little-big airport despite the = fact it is run by the city. Have Astronauts tooling around routinely....= that is if helping a fellow rotor-head with a fresh set of eyes is not en= ough ;-) =09 All the best, =09 Chris =09 Mark Steitle wrote: =09 Kelly, I guess it is just you and me at the moment. I have been flying my = 3-rotor Lancair pretty much every chance I get. It is showing 139.7 hrs = on the Hobbs. I've been as far north as Denver, and two weeks ago flew i= t down to Port Aransas, TX. Cooling could use some improvement in order = to keep flying during the hot Texas summers. But I'm working on that. S= tay tuned... Mark=20 =09 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Kelly Troyer > wrote: =09 Any One Out There ??.................... -- Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html =09 Warning: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous= e-mails attached to it, may contain confidential information that is leg= ally privileged. 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Nope, still ch= asing gremlins.  I am having an issue with the secondary injectors c= ausing the engine to quite when I hit about 20 inches Manifold pressure/4= 000 rpm.  If I turn the secondaries off, the power soars back and wi= ll get me in the high 5000 rpm and low 6000's rpm static.  This is n= ot a mere "bog".  I have been reading the archives to get some direc= tion.  However, most of the comments are on bog, not it running so b= adly it wants to shutdown.  I did not have too much time to check, b= ut I think the staging point seems to have moved to about 20 inches...the= same place as this rough patch on the secondaries (asterisk disappears a= t this point).  Seems like it is flooding with fuel...donno.  I= have all the same size injectors now.  The ones that Mistral recomm= ends for their intake, which I am using.
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It was working fine a couple of weeks ago....as I repor= ted.  Donno what happened.  I may reset since I have not done a= ny tuning and a couple of map settings seemed to have changed.  It w= as running PERFECT on the default settings when I first installed it= when I got the EC2/EM2 back from Tracy a few weeks back. Again don't kno= w why.  I did find a problem with one of my two B&C regulat= ors.  It has been repaired and according to the phone call I got tod= ay, is on its way back to me. Not likely directly related, but until I ge= t that solved everything else is suspect.
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I also gotta do some other pesky chores like set the w= ing/canard incidences, properly secure wire runs, get some longer bolts t= o properly secure my alternators with castle nuts etc.  I have = a VERY short list (about 8 items) that I copied on a yellow note pad= of items I pulled from the manual.  Things like fit wheel= pants, apply blue locktite to door pins (as to not have them unscrew in = the closed position trapping you in plane),
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Have everything else in the manual completed (OMG, = I really do.  WOW....like John Slade has said, if the me of six year= s ago could see the me of today, he would be damn impressed <g>).&n= bsp; Also, I need to wire my panel.  I have been keeping the avionic= s (Dual King 125, Dynon D100 etc stored until I get the electrical stuff = sorted out.  However, that may only take a bit o' time to at le= ast get it set enough to fly VFR day....all I am currently rated at.=  Kinda scary though that if'n I ever get the engine to behave prope= rly/consistently/reliably, I am pretty damn close <yikes>=0A
 
=0AI reconnected the control surfac= es the other day so when I make airplane noises, I can have my controls m= ove too.......yeah, responsible, mature, cop, attorney, airplane builder,= armature engineer and pilot.....can't cha tell?????
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So, when is the big day (ma= iden flight).  Do you have a date set with the DAR yet?&nb= sp;
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Nah.  Just envious of all the places you can land th= at I would be foolish to even try.  Of course, I actually have to fl= y before I can land <g>....kinda works that way.
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Ha Ha...yeah, I know s= qeeeeeeezing in a mere 9002 feet can be a challenge.  Got look out f= or the arrester cables for the Navy jets....and, be careful if the Shuttl= e is up as I believe it is one of the many alt landing strips.  You = ought to think about it in a canard and not a "easy-land" RV <g>
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Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SURE IS QUIET !!
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Well, I don't know Chris, I'= m a little leary of landing on such short runways.  I would have to = practice up on my short field technique first.  Besides, rumor has i= t that there are a bunch of little gremlins lurking around EFD waiti= ng to pounce on anything that comes within 100 yards of your hangar.=   ;0)
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Well dang it Mark....Houston is not that far a hop then, now = is it??????? <g>  Ellington Field (EFD) is a great little-big = airport despite the fact it is run by the city.  Have Astronauts too= ling around routinely....that is if helping a fellow rotor-head with a fr= esh set of eyes is not enough ;-)

All the best,

Chris
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 I guess it is just you and me at the moment.  I= have been flying my 3-rotor Lancair pretty much every chance I get. &nbs= p;It is showing 139.7 hrs on the Hobbs.  I've been as far north as D= enver, and two weeks ago flew it down to Port Aransas, TX.  Cooling = could use some improvement in order to keep flying during the hot Texas s= ummers.  But I'm working on that.  Stay tuned...
 Mark =
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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net <mailto= :keltro@att.net>= > wrote:

   Any One Out There ??....................<= BR>   --
   Kelly Troyer
   "Dyke Del= ta"_13B ROTARY Engine
   "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
   = "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold





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