X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao102.cox.net ([68.230.241.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3765369 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:44:33 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.44; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090720054355.KTMP20976.fed1rmmtao102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:43:55 -0400 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.133.78]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id J5jl1c0011hf1Cg045jw1d; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:43:56 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=O70eAthdf0oA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=N8B9JuSIAAAA:8 a=tB_ZE_iz3X_sZnKW-ZUA:9 a=FmCHnw7PmDb2PsOnWwsSnphIwmcA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=ZIzTV53UlftXArpG:21 a=x8fpRc-Tah-iFf1E:21 a=Iu5EEJRFfz8roGbOVSEA:9 a=42iyTMiXMJsOmuC5PZ4A:7 a=oNfuAKZbEvB2dDxcnhicdFg43FkA:4 a=_LcSR0w9ReYLTQSd:21 a=onDzxlV-nvVaainq:21 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] WTF? Just when I think everything is going perfect... Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:44:52 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA08C2.8E791CE0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoI79IvfCDwZmm6SLKxmrtswWVEIwAE96Ag In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA08C2.8E791CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gremlins always come when everything is working perfectly. =20 That's a tough one. Hard to be helpful when you've pretty much covered everything. =20 It would seem that either the mixture isn't right or the spark is coming = at the wrong time. What do you mean you "re-drained" the fuel? Is the = spark in cranking mode maybe very weak - like not enough to jump the gap under compression? =20 Maybe it is one of those gremlins that loses its power if you ignore it = for awhile. Then tomorrow it will start right up:-). =20 Al =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:08 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] WTF? Just when I think everything is going = perfect... =20 Yesterday I went flying and tested out my new smoke system... everything = was perfect... somke is fun. Today I head out to go formation flying.. nothing changed from my flight yesterday except for adding fuel. But it won't start... I verify that I have fuel pressure, fuel flow, injector function (in test mode), I have spark (in test mode). Maybe it is flooded... I change the plugs, re-verify spark in cranking mode (to eliminate issues with CAS), re-drain the fuel, verify compression, = re-verify fuel pressure and flow and injector funcion... but still it just turns = over without starting... Sigh Anyone one know of a new component necessary other than fuel, spark, and compression? --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA08C2.8E791CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gremlins always come when = everything is working perfectly.

 

That’s a tough one. Hard to = be helpful when you’ve pretty much covered everything.  =

It would seem that either the = mixture isn’t right or the spark is coming at the wrong time.  What = do you mean you “re-drained” the fuel?  Is the spark in = cranking mode maybe very weak – like not enough to jump the gap under = compression?

 

Maybe it is one of those gremlins = that loses its power if you ignore it for awhile.  Then tomorrow it will start = right upJ.

 

Al

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:08 = PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] WTF? = Just when I think everything is going perfect...

 

Yesterday I went flying and tested out my new = smoke system... everything was perfect...  somke is fun.  Today I = head out to go formation flying..  nothing changed from my flight yesterday = except for adding fuel.  But it won't start...   I verify that I = have fuel pressure, fuel flow, injector function (in test mode), I have spark = (in test mode).  Maybe it is flooded... I change the plugs, re-verify = spark in cranking mode (to eliminate issues with CAS), re-drain the fuel, verify compression, re-verify fuel pressure and flow and injector funcion... = but still it just turns over without starting...  Sigh

Anyone one know of a new component necessary other than fuel, spark, and compression?

--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net

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