X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.235] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3762746 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:19:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.198.235; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so211883rvf.7 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:18:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=T7z37MNH8LLk3u3L/+bOs24EQ8DS0k9c+s2NMyvZGTU=; b=fgj6qXAnDbFee/DS1iYuuAzH4AraRogJFdFvKagRfZR2eTlIC2PdtVItG4zclJZfBA qRJxWeiv8RA/Q06ySWYikP7oBddNzADx5GeWT8EAzJrk9uKDPkE0PtC7+NMcSR7vjKt5 XR/McsyfwS4hEZDOeIbTEpYADYXR8wl6XpNN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=NJQ7enyINeH0/oShseyml4AMT82gGIEqsSmQq3LDHS6xnL8BLEdmiita3YaGbWLqcI 6MzyQmZjQusL9oKZghuhwfX4xAXlSkSzxkSAQHHWZPrZaCbdR2Uq2ZQ6GXaFzYjJuWg3 QMTLC8+WC/DzcfZWO4oRyKeutbcnh9LaoKuHQ= Received: by 10.140.178.8 with SMTP id a8mr924938rvf.66.1247843918092; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?192.168.0.102? ([24.207.116.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm7272361rvb.45.2009.07.17.08.18.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Windshield Washer Pump was RE: [FlyRotary] Re:Laprascopic surgery and Wankle cooling From: Todd Bartrim To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="=-0lpo5gocPbmEbem78n20" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:18:35 -0700 Message-Id: <1247843915.21352.20.camel@Endurance> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 --=-0lpo5gocPbmEbem78n20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-Rbs2aesfGCdOzs/zI57N" --=-Rbs2aesfGCdOzs/zI57N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Another advantage to using one of these surgery pumps; When you're at a fly-in with your cowl off and somebody says "Hey, where'd you get the neat little pump?", you get to reply with a cool story about your Laproscopic surgeon friend! Us instrument mechanics like to use cool, big words to confuse others so they think we actually know what we're doing. :) Todd Dazzle with brilliance or baffle with BS... all the same On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 08:07 -0700, Todd Bartrim wrote: > Hi Ed; > Realistically, this is probably the best way to go about this, but > if Dave's surgery pumps can survive and have an effect, it would have > the advantage of being light. In an ideal installation the water would > be by far the heaviest component, so once it was consumed (such as on > initial climb-out) there wouldn't be allot of unnecessary weight left > to carry around. > > Todd > > > On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 06:43 -0400, Ed Anderson wrote: > > > Not certain how well it would work for the cooling application, but > > in the past I used windshield washer water pumps (and their plastic > > fluid containers) to inject water into a turbocharged 1976 Honda > > Civic. The pump system was designed for “hostile” environment use > > under the hood of a automobile. Not certain whether it develops > > enough pressure to give a good atomized spray. But, they were > > relative cheap and available. > > > > > > > > Ed > > --=-Rbs2aesfGCdOzs/zI57N Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another advantage to using one of these surgery pumps;
    When you're at a fly-in with your cowl off and somebody says "Hey, where'd you get the neat little pump?", you get to reply with a cool story about your Laproscopic surgeon friend!
    Us instrument mechanics like to use cool, big words to confuse others so they think we actually know what we're doing. :)

Todd        Dazzle with brilliance or baffle with BS... all the same

On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 08:07 -0700, Todd Bartrim wrote:
Hi Ed;
    Realistically, this is probably the best way to go about this, but if Dave's surgery pumps can survive and have an effect, it would have the advantage of being light. In an ideal installation the water would be by far the heaviest component, so once it was consumed (such as on initial climb-out) there wouldn't be allot of unnecessary weight left to carry around.

Todd


On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 06:43 -0400, Ed Anderson wrote:
Not certain how well it would work for the cooling application, but in the past I used windshield washer water pumps (and their plastic fluid containers) to inject water into a turbocharged 1976 Honda Civic.  The pump system  was designed for “hostile” environment use under the hood of a automobile.  Not certain whether it develops enough pressure to give a good atomized spray.  But, they were relative cheap and available.

 

Ed

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