X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3754368 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:39:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.171; envelope-from=lehanover@gmail.com Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so2944217yxe.7 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:38:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=KnHl8h/dTc717Dd7N6Yn9Wk3n5CvJX80wGAFpiweaVo=; b=j/HuRgr51BsmtRaJY6aztIXgG2VTPlqpZJNBxCmJ7JtKVWLVLn4hIJ2x5rtbhgwfol 4TcCr2aNnVG7+0xfbrG15UZ89kiutu1XPoKzR6iunBmjdGtkw8bJsAq5DPsA0YEVm1WL j73jxB/+sAPqB16joLdoQBMGFsdaKQDp24wec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jKZGz5MH8DqiF0UyMJPivMAE39fTxXf3e1dHZFINXu6gNtPu9joiFW0qmjAfqY3j3C Tgl8cZE5h3CwzrZLj7bDE/uV7OhFmmKY/bBmcRVjpVMBpajmWsbCWSJBXQJmMsGOwg1F WNwOGijDeoPo+WOoMk7h/oDfSbG7xTXMqbLPM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.135 with SMTP id t7mr795799ibt.12.1247398733469; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:38:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1ab24f410907120438pc605dc0s983feb3dc4a18ca4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Float level From: Lynn Hanover To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d654166d8be046e80a686 --0022152d654166d8be046e80a686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/11/2009 10:29:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ALVentures@cox.net writes: Too high? Now that's a new one. Please explain. Finn ------------------ Just recently my hangar neighbor was having trouble with his RV with, I guess, a Lycoming - his engine would die on final approach. This happened 2 - 3 times before he finally figured out the float in the carburetor had leaked; and the fuel level in the bowl was too high. It ran fine when he started up cold, took off and was flying (probably running a bit rich). When he pulled power on short final it would get too rich and die. I recall a similar behavior with a car many, many years ago. Maybe not relevant to your case; but seemed to fit. Al G The orientation of the bowl relative to the Jet well where the main fuel jet is located can give you a problem when the float level is set high, or the float lever has been bent a bit in a hard landing, or the float has a leak and has become heavy. The bowl on the left or right side of the carb only effects operation when in a long slip. It has no effect in a coordinated turn. A bowl on the front would tend to flood during climb. A bowl on the rear would flood when the nose is down a bit. The fuel level too high allows raw fuel to run into the air corrector jet at the top of the well and shut the engine off on over-rich mixture. The engine may not restart until the plane is level or nose high. Shake the float to see if there is fuel inside for a brass float. For foam or plastic there is a specific weight it must meet (same or lighter) also check float level adjustment. Then check the needle and seat assembly for positive sealing when closed. Check pivot pin wear (none allowed). Check for bits of fuel hose in the seat assembly. A fuel filter should be very close to the carb. Cut your filters open at annual to see if hoses are decomposing. Too much fuel can be as bad as too little fuel. Auto fuel with alcohol is not compatible with every thing you found at the flymart. Buy the book for your carb and go through the setup procedure. Lynn E. Hanover --0022152d654166d8be046e80a686 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 7/11/2009 10:29:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ALVentures@cox.net writes:
Too high? Now that's a new one. Please expla= in.
Finn
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Just recently my hangar neighbor was having t= rouble with his RV with, I
guess, a Lycoming - his engine would die on f= inal approach.=A0 This happened 2
- 3 times before he finally figured ou= t the float in the carburetor had
leaked; and the fuel level in the bowl was too high.=A0 It ran fine when he=
started up cold, took off and was flying (probably running a bit rich).=
When he pulled power on short final it would get too rich and die.

I recall a similar behavior with a car many, many years ago.

Ma= ybe not relevant to your case; but seemed to fit.

Al G
The orientation of the bowl relative to the Jet well where the main fu= el jet is located can give you a problem when the float level is set high, = or the float lever has been bent a bit in a hard landing, or the float has = a leak and has become heavy.
=A0
The bowl on the left or right side of the carb only effects operation = when in a long slip. It has no effect in a coordinated turn. A bowl on the = front would tend to flood during climb. A bowl on the rear would flood when= the nose is down a bit. The fuel level too high allows raw fuel to run int= o the air corrector jet at the top of the well and shut the engine off on o= ver-rich mixture. The engine may not restart until the plane is level or no= se high.
=A0
Shake the float to see if there is fuel inside for a brass float. For = foam or plastic there is a specific weight it must meet (same or lighter) a= lso check float level adjustment. Then check the needle and seat assembly f= or positive sealing when closed. Check pivot pin wear (none allowed). Check= for bits of fuel hose in the seat assembly. A fuel filter should be very c= lose to the carb. Cut your filters open at annual to see if hoses are decom= posing. Too much fuel can be as bad as too little fuel. Auto fuel with alco= hol is not compatible with every thing you found at the flymart. Buy the bo= ok for your carb and go through the setup procedure.
=A0
Lynn E. Hanover=A0=A0=A0
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