X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com ([209.85.218.211] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3753201 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:31:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.211; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so836733bwz.19 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9tvaXYRqX4sf+AMaWCPGvD0dHELwHXDILsTlRSZfc5I=; b=w88BDq6CFS29xfc1PtTumEnDnj4h/fR52rx3HzuZxMGmXbv4A91WloM9RH8yzOOe4m 9+ae6gvjSmwBnpCuqmEay78gX1si6lB8h9OYDyBvhoKZVOMekxcOOzSaxsAbIiNbEaTM XsQibRzznxlS7dTW8Vct+Z/kdtaGvT4xBnXLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fHAdae8PoWWucAlp1kNQJjxKy7YEJv7hJQ8AWk9ssvqcosjwSQiLEU0WsfapXiH6pB RNj8XGBS4l3ENvij34pw9jbJr3LE9destI55pX8GXseJK7WulZhgEkcbF3HP7EzbeR74 xC5TyX3ASA5s35HkP8k8zWJ7nOo6QgBMV44iw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.67.67 with SMTP id q3mr2583835bki.7.1247279461703; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:31:01 -0500 Message-ID: <5cf132c0907101931r23ce67a9ve552a537d28b124e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: DAR From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ab904021bc046e64e119 --001636c5ab904021bc046e64e119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said Ed. And don't forget to include yourself in the group of "hairy-chested heroes". Heck, you've proven that a rotary can fly for mile= s even when the engine isn't running. ;-) Mark S. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Ed Anderson wro= te: > Yes, Ron was one of the early pioneers of the Rotary along with Neil > Kruiswyk in his Lancair 235, Terry Adams and his Throp T-18 and a number= of > others. Some got airborne with their rotary and many did not. None I kno= w > of ever got their installation sorted out well enough that you would call= it > a truly going concern. I know Ron flew a number of flights and some of = you > had the good fortunate to undoubtedly be the first passenger in a rotary > powered aircraft. Ron (as pioneers frequently do) had one incident where > his coolant went amiss and he pretty much cooked his engine but made it b= ack > safely. From photos I saw of one of his intake, it was a series of short > aluminum tubes clamped together every 4-5 =93 with hose and clamps. Not > certain what performance he got with that set up. He like many of us usi= ng > the Ross drive eventually found it deficient =96 one reason we fly with > Tracy=92s and one reason Tracy designed his own. > > > > Unfortunately, back in those days, there was no e mail list such as we no= w > enjoy =96 so that these early pioneers could not easily contact each othe= r and > assist and share knowledge =96 I mean there are many reasons these guys a= re > called pioneers. Heck, I didn=92t know there was a Tracy Crook, until hi= s > photo appear on the cover of KITPLANE back in 1995. But, despite the > efforts of these early pioneers, in my opinion, Tracy Crook garners the > honor of showing that the rotary was a viable aircraft power plant, flyin= g > now for over 15 years and likely approaching 1800 =96 2000 hours of rotar= y > time probably having carried dozens of passengers in his Rv-4 Otter. > > > > We are fortunate to have so many on this list with so much expertise in s= o > many areas to aid us in safely and quickly get our rotary powered aircraf= t > airborne. > > > > Thanks Pioneers > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > http://www.andersonee.com > > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > > http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Mark Steitle > *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 7:47 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: DAR > > > > Steve, > > > > You're probably thinking of Ron Gowan. He inspected my Lancair (20B). H= e > used to fly a rotary-powered canard. I think he flies for Delta out of > Atlanta, Ga, but lives in Denton. He's a great guy that serves as a DAR = to > help out the local EAA. I don't know how far he will travel, but it > wouldn't hurt to ask. His number is 817/975-2138. When he inspected my > project, he arranged to fly into Austin, get a rental car, drive to > Lockhart, then drive back to Dallas. He wouldn't take anything for his > troubles, but I did manage to get him to let me pay for the rent car and > gas. > > > > His two comments concerning my project was to pay close attention to: 1) > the cooling system, and 2) the gearbox. > > > > Mark S. > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Steve Thomas wrote: > > Somewhere I remember reading about a DAR that was rotary-friendly and who > would travel to my location to to a certification. Was that here? Does > anyone remember who that was? Thanks to all for this great list and all = who > so graciously provide such valuable information. > > Best Regards, > > Steve Thomas > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > --001636c5ab904021bc046e64e119 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well said Ed.=A0 And don't forget to include yourself in the group= of "hairy-chested heroes".=A0 Heck, you've proven that a rot= ary can fly for miles even when the engine isn't=A0running.=A0 ;-)=A0 <= /div>
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Mark S.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@c= arolina.rr.com> wrote:

Yes, Ron was one of the early pione= ers of the Rotary along with Neil Kruiswyk in his Lancair 235, Terry Adams = and his Throp T-18 =A0and a number of others. Some got airborne with their = rotary and many did not.=A0 None I know of ever got their installation sort= ed out well enough that you would call it a truly going concern.=A0 =A0I kn= ow Ron flew a number of flights and some of you had the good fortunate to u= ndoubtedly be the first passenger in a=A0 rotary powered aircraft.=A0 Ron (= as pioneers frequently do) had one incident where his coolant went amiss an= d he pretty much cooked his engine but made it back safely.=A0 From photos = I saw of one of his intake, it was a series of short aluminum tubes clamped= together every 4-5 =93 with hose and clamps.=A0 Not certain what performan= ce he got with that set up.=A0 He like many of us using the Ross drive even= tually found it deficient =96 one reason we fly with Tracy=92s and one reas= on Tracy designed his own.

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Unfortunately, back in those days, = there was no e mail list such as we now enjoy =96 so that these early pione= ers could not easily contact each other and assist and share knowledge =96 = I mean there are many reasons these guys are called pioneers. =A0Heck, I di= dn=92t know there was a Tracy Crook, until his photo appear on the cover of= KITPLANE back in 1995.=A0 =A0But, despite the =A0efforts of these early pi= oneers, in my opinion, Tracy Crook garners the honor of showing that the ro= tary was a viable aircraft power plant, flying now for over 15 years and li= kely approaching 1800 =96 2000 hours of rotary time probably having carried= dozens of passengers in his Rv-4 Otter.=A0

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We are fortunate to have so many on= this list with so much expertise in so many areas to aid us in safely and = quickly get our rotary powered aircraft airborne.

=A0

Thanks Pioneers

=A0

Ed

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From: Rota= ry motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009= 7:47 PM
To: Rotary moto= rs in aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: DAR

= Mark S.

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