X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3752403 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:17:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090710161719770.YJNC21390@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:17:19 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Outside cowl was : [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower Report Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:17:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA0158.5F1FCD70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoBc6qvr3StnXDOQ+ONz6/nzn9RwAABejnQ Message-Id: <20090710161719770.YJNC21390@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA0158.5F1FCD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yvon, My muffler's front end are approx 6" from the bottom opening of my cowl. The total distance from my exhaust port to the muffler is 24" Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Yvon Cournoyer Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:32 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Outside cowl was : [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower Report Ed, does your engine exhaust orientation permit you to hang your mufflers closer to your engine? What is the distance between engine exhaust and mufflers? Yvon ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Outside cowl was : [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower Report Bryan, My two Hushpower mufflers are outside the cowl, slung under the fuselage just in back of the bottom cowl opening. One muffler for each rotor. Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberry Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:15 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower Report Ed, Is yours under the cowl? I'm thinking proximity to heat source is the primary factor here. Bryan Unless yours is under the cowl. In that case, it's the plugs up orientation that keeps yours cool :>) _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:26 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower Report Hummm, I've had my two HushpowerII mufflers on for around two years now and can't tell of any deterioration. I've never noticed any of the stuff that you and Mark Steitle have found and the innards still seem in one piece. The difference is I use two HushpowerII mufflers perhaps reducing the exhaust stress on them? Plus Mark had three rotors pushing through one and you have the turbo - although I would think the turbo would absorb some/most of the stress. Let us know how the new muffler works out, Dave Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:39 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Flowmaster Hushpower Report For the last couple hundred hours I have been using a Flowmaster Hushpower II muffler. Also used by Tracy and some others I think. It is done. The outside held up wery well, but I reciently removed it and discovered that the insides have entirely disientigrated. Whatever they used as packing has turned to a heavy clay-like substance ratteling around in the bottom. She steel mesh is in pieces. I had been thinking that the plane was not as quiet as it seemed 2 years ago.. go figure. So I was thinking about one of the DNA Mufflers someone mentioned. They seemed nice because there is no packing, just steel dividers. Unfortunately, it is a little to big around to fit in my current set up. Instead, I ordered this muffler that also has steel innards but no packing: http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=35054 It is nice because it is going to be smaller and lighter than the flowmaster (or the DNA), as well as less expensive - even the SS version that I ordered. Will report back in 2 years on its performance :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA0158.5F1FCD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yvon, My muffler’s front end = are approx 6” from the bottom opening of my cowl.  The total = distance from my exhaust port to the muffler is 24”

 

Ed

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Yvon Cournoyer
Sent: Friday, July 10, = 2009 11:32 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Outside cowl was : [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower = Report

 

Ed, does your engine exhaust orientation = permit you to hang your mufflers closer to your engine? What is the distance = between engine exhaust and mufflers? = Yvon

----- Original Message ----- =

From: Ed Anderson

Sent: Friday, = July 10, 2009 10:35 AM

Subject: = [FlyRotary] Outside cowl was : [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower = Report

 

Bryan, My two Hushpower mufflers are outside the cowl, slung = under the fuselage just in back of the bottom cowl opening.  One muffler for = each rotor.

 

 

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberry
Sent: Friday, July 10, = 2009 8:15 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower Report

 

Ed,

Is yours under the cowl? =  I’m thinking proximity to heat source is the primary factor = here.

Bryan

Unless yours is under the cowl. =  In that case, it’s the plugs up orientation that keeps yours cool = :>)

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Friday, July 10, = 2009 7:26 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flowmaster Hushpower Report

 

Hummm, I’ve had my two = HushpowerII mufflers on for around two years now and can’t tell of any deterioration.  I’ve never noticed any of the stuff that you = and Mark Steitle have found and the innards still seem in one piece.  = The difference is I use two HushpowerII mufflers perhaps reducing the = exhaust stress on them?  Plus Mark had three rotors pushing through one and = you have the turbo - although I would think the turbo would absorb some/most = of the stress.

 

Let us know how the new muffler = works out, Dave

 

Ed

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Thursday, July 09, = 2009 10:39 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Flowmaster Hushpower Report

 

For the last couple hundred hours I have been using a Flowmaster Hushpower II muffler.  Also used by Tracy and some others I = think.  It is done.  The outside held up wery well, but I reciently removed = it and discovered that the insides have entirely disientigrated.  Whatever = they used as packing has turned to a heavy clay-like substance ratteling = around in the bottom.  She steel mesh is in pieces.  I had been thinking that the plane was not as quiet as it seemed 2 years = ago..  go figure.

 

So I was thinking about one of the DNA Mufflers someone mentioned.  They seemed nice because there is no packing, just = steel dividers.  Unfortunately, it is a little to big around to fit in my current set up.   Instead, I ordered this muffler that = also has steel innards but no packing:

 

It is nice because it is going to be smaller and lighter than = the flowmaster (or the DNA), as well as less expensive - even the SS version = that I ordered.

 

Will report back in 2 years on its performance  :-)


--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net



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