Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #4701
From: Eric Ruttan <ericruttan@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Air Density at altitude
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:13:42 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
If you look at the DeltaT (DT) for cooling; aircooled have a much larger DT than liquid.  At altitude the increase in DT for aircooled aircraft is small, but in liquid aircraft it is large.
 
So you can say this several ways.
 
Liquid Cooled aircraft have more of an advantage at altitude.
Or (perhaps more correctly)
Air cooled aircraft have less of a large advantage at altitude.
 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Air Density at altitude

 
 
From: JJ JOHNSON
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:54 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Air Density at altitude

Ed another factor which will help in this situation is the fact that the air at 25K will be alot colder than at S.L. That will help as well won't it?  I've read somewhere that liquid cooled a/c cool better at altitude than their aircooled counterparts. Anyone else heard this?
 
Jarrett Johnson
 
Interesting point.  It certainly has to help as the colder incoming air will provide a larger Delta T between the temperature of the incoming air and the  walls/fins of the cooler core (which would stay at approx the same temp - if using a thermostat).  The question is would is how much would it help and would it help enough to make up for the lesser air mass flow? The mass flow at 20,000 ft is approx 30% less than that at sea level for the same indicated air speed.
 
Heat transfer equation Q =W*DeltaT*Cp, with W = mass flow down by 30%.  So to get rid of the same Q of heat (and since Cp doesn't change that much)  it would appear that means the delta T term would need to increase by 30% for Q quantity to remain the same.  But, I don't know exactly how a 79Deg colder incoming air would affect the Delta T term.
 
BIll??
 
Ed Anderson
 
 
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