X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.241.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3678411 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:55:06 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.39; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090610195428.AAQ18948.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:54:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([72.223.46.207]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 2KuU1c00C4UCPC803KuUai; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:54:28 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=k8dMx4oKp3MA:10 a=1ucuJNxztKIA:10 a=-gUDTcjZAAAA:8 a=grmTje-iAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=1MxnHicyz_DD0cIht78A:9 a=8wXw19LFlkY9QWzAW7IA:7 a=nkf2ICjFTsNBiL_ivDXr-VgXlLkA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4A300F73.40301@cox.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:54:27 -0700 From: Dale Rogers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Injectors quandary. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, There was a lot of traffic on this subject in 2003. IIRC Ed Anderson was/is using MSD injectors (2012?). Dunno if they will fit the Mistral manifold, though. Some interesting info here: http://www.robietherobot.com/Storm/fuelinjectorguide.htm and here: http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/accelfuelinj-choose.html HTH, Dale R. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Barber > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:38 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Injectors quandary. > > The list is WAY too quiet. So, I thought I would pose this concern/question. > > I am wanting to get new/rebuilt injectors. I tried to get some a while > back and ordered 4 Mazda injectors. It was at this time I discovered > that the stock Mazda injectors do NOT fit the Mistral intake. My former > build helper originally found the injectors I have been using. The are > seriously mismatched at about 550 cfm and 1600 cfm. I know the EC2 can > compensate (perhaps with some difficulty due to the extreme difference), > but I am wanting to replace them all with about 550ish injectors. > Perhaps it will help some of my leaning issues, perhaps not.. > > I am having a couple of issues. First, getting the right PHYSICAL > size. While the ones I am using in the Mistral Intake look a great deal > like the Mazda injectors, they are different in physical dimensions. > The ones I have come back with a Chrysler (Deko) and Ford Part numbers, > but seem to be very old part numbers have been difficult to find online > (my local auto shop and speed shop has been no help...I seem to know > more than they do about the topic even though they did try to help). > Are there "standard" known physical types with some kind of verbiage > that will allow me to get the proper fit? Or do I use my calipers, go > for the couple of sets I have found with dimensional drawings, order > them and hope for the proper fit? I just do not know the "standards" > used and I yet been unable to find the answer online....gee, I may have > to resort to live persons in an auto electrical shop . Some of the > injectors seems short and stubby and some long and skinny...some, > indistinguishable to the untrained eye, like the different ones I have now. > > I know, due to my ignorance, I may be making this harder than it is, but > hey, it is part of the learning. > > SECOND. Since I am ordering new injectors anyway, I am curious about > the impedance. The current ones are low impedance. Thus, I am using > the resistors in series with each injector. I know the EC2 does not > seem to mind this at all, however, since I am replacing them, is it wise > to remove this minor failure point (the connections to the resistors > etc) and buy high impedance injectors and remove the resistors? Does > one have a significant advantage over the other? Seems if you can > reduce the parts count (heh, like in the rotary), it may be better. > > Thanks guys. Hope this helps pick up list activity a bit too. > > All the best, > > Chris > Houston > >