Ok, thanks, Al. I apparently
misunderstood Tracy’s
comment – my isolation diode is (will be) between alternator and
battery
Ed
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:26
PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Battery
Isolation diodes
Ed;
I don’t know your circuitry, but I
don’t think a diode isolating the alternator is a noise issue.
Isolating the battery from the essential bus could be.
Al G
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From: Rotary
motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:10
AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Battery
Isolation diodes
Thanks, Tracy
I was unaware (never
thought about it) of the association – perhaps not having an isolation
diode is one reason I never had any “Noise Problem” with the EC2
{:>)
Thanks for the
information
Ed
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Tracy Crook
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:21
AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Battery
Isolation diodes
Just one comment about the isolation diodes
idea. I hate it. It's for my own selfish reason though. The
diodes not only isolate potential faults, they isolate electrical noise from
the battery which increases the noise on the rest of the system.
Noise on systems with poor electrical system layout has been my number 1
headache. These diodes multiply the problem by at least a factor of
two. If you insist on using the diodes, you might want to install a
capacitor at your main power distribution point. Those big electrolytics
that the monster car audio systems use would be ideal : )
The electrical systems guru (Bob K.)
points out that batteries do not make a good noise absorber and that is
technically true but I would counter that they are infinitely better than
nothing at all.
Tracy
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
wrote:
Jim Maher was kind enough to convert the large DXF files of my electrical
system to JPG so perhaps more of you can examine it. Recall I have
removed
the 2nd battery stuff - so ignore that on the diagrams. Also the diagram
does not show any of the detailed EC2/injector/ignition wiring - follow
Tracy's
recommendations on that.
As you will note there is no "isolation" diode between alternator and
battery and also that the battery voltage holds the master relay closed.
That is another change I must make. I must have decided (10+ years ago)
that the battery would never fail - only the alternator. Clearly (now),
without battery voltage (in my design) to hold the master relay closed -
when the battery voltage fall to around 6-7 volts (in my case) the relay
opens and all that good electrical power being produced by the perfectly
good alternator - can not reach any part of the electrical system.
Clearly
NOT good as I could have continued to fly perfectly well with just the
alternator juice.
Your design is not going to be any better than the accuracy of your
assumptions. Clearly some of my assumptions make 10 years ago definitely
need revising.
Ed
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