X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTP id 3580069 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:41:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.122; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090414004042.TXUA4386.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@computername> for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:40:42 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Brazing was [FlyRotary] Re: Beading a tube Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:40:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acm8kHyw6XdwZARcRkCnGHWZyNwyTgACIPTw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-Id: <20090414004042.TXUA4386.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@computername> That may work well, Dale. But, I have stacks or aluminum brazing rods that I could never get them to do more than sizzle around like a drop of water in a hot skillet {:>). The HTS-2000 was the first one I had any success with and did not require special prep of the work area. I realize that other folks must have had success with the other brands, but I did not. I mean enough folks must have continued to buy the products to keep them in business - but the HTS-2000 just flowed great and just a brief scrub with a stainless steel brush was enough to get adherence. I use it to braze my aluminum intake manifold (since I don't weld) and am still flying with it and no problems thus far. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dale Rogers Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 7:34 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Beading a tube At a trade show, a couple of months ago, I picked up a bit of this: http://www.alumiweld.com/ Seems to work pretty well. Dale R. COZY MkIV #0497 Ch. 13 wrjjrs@aol.com wrote: > Ed you can do the same with a good high temp epoxy and the same wire. > (J-B weld) I would probably prefer your method though. I believe you > can get the low temp braze stuff from aircraft spruce now. > Bill Jepson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Anderson > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 2:46 pm > Subject: [FlyRotary] Beading a tube - sort of: [FlyRotary] Re: forced > landings > > Bill, here is something you might try if you can not find, beg, or > borrow a big expensive beading machine. > > Take some soft aluminum rod of the size you want for a bead. Bend it > around the tube and cut it to a length where the ends of the rod meet > around the tube. Position the rod ring near the end of tube and clamp > it in place. Then use some of the HTS- 2000 aluminum brazing rod > (other stuff may work, but this is the only rod I've ever had any luck > with) and a propane torch to braze the rod on the tube. A bit of > touch up with a fine file or sand paper and you have your bead. A bit > of work, but not that hard and if you don't have access to a beading > machine one way to get the job done. > > URL of site: > > http://www.aluminumrepair.com/ > > Ed > > Ed Anderson > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > Matthews, NC > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > http://www.andersonee.com > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > http://www.flyrotary.com/ > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net > ] *On Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry > *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2009 5:17 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: forced landings > > Dave's number 4 below brings up a question I have been pondering. > > How do you put a bead on the ends of aluminum tubing so the hose will > not slip off??? > > My tubing is inch and a quarter and probably 0.060 thick. Suggestions > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Bill B -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com