Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #44476
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Update ... Three more flights, water ok, oil too cool
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:58:07 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Hi Neil,

 

Yes, I recall that you and Jim did use a thermostat plugs up with no problem.  I found burping the block (actually my cores)  necessary even without a thermostat.  It could be that I did it the same number of times I did without the thermostat and that was insufficient.

 

I normally would run the engine 5000 rpm for 30-40 seconds to burp the air.  Would need to do this about 3 times before I got all the air out of my cores.  Because of my ignorance of all factors early on  when designing the plumbing for the cores, I had both inlet and outlet on the bottom – not conducive to getting air out of the cores. 

 

So should have one tube going in the bottom and the other out the top or both out the top or at least a spigot on top to release the air as the tanks filled.

 

You know – the old “should have, could have, would have -  but didn’t”.  Now it’s just simpler to burp the engine three times on the infrequent occasions I drain the coolant.

 

I agree that slower moving airframes benefit more from thinner cores. However, if you have sufficient dynamic pressure to force air through thicker cores they can function very well even though  -as you point out - the are technically less efficient.  The 190 MPH NASCAR radiators are a nominal 3” thick and on the long tracks with lot of straight runs can be as much as 6-7 inches thick.  But, the thicker cores do require dynamic pressure - and low speed flight or sitting on the ground does not provide much of it {:>)

 

Ed

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com

http://www.andersonee.com

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of neilak@sympatico.ca
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:14 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Update ... Three more flights, water ok, oil too cool

 

Ed,

 

            Jim and I both ran thermostats, plugs up.  Summer or winter, No problem.  Burping the block was mandatory.

 

NeilK

 

 

“snip”

 

I have tried using a thermostat on two occasions and almost fired my engine on the ground.  I am not certain but because I am plugs up, I think I may trap some air around the thermostat stopping it from heating up and opening



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