X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3340274 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:34:07 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20081207123329.ECAE25405.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@computername> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:33:29 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] TX Rotary Velocity update Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 07:33:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C9583E.1BAD7920" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AclYNI8m2Dm5ry+FRXaB7puq0ohAPQAMsC0g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-Id: <20081207123329.ECAE25405.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@computername> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C9583E.1BAD7920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glad to hear things are going a bit better for you, Chris. You have certainly had your trials and tribulations - but good to see you hanging in there. I once let my old rotary engine sit for six weeks with the intake manifold off after I had the engine severely flooded (gasoline pouring out the exhaust). The flood of gasoline (due to the old auto fuel injection system I was then using) apparently removed all traces of oil from the apex seals and their slots. After six weeks I tried to start the engine and found I had zero compression - the starter motor turned over the engine and prop like it was going to get us airborne. To make a long story short after a week of poking through the exhaust port I managed to break loose all BUT ONE of the seals. Eventually had to take the engine off and even then broke the one apex seal to get it out. Since then I go out and do a start up every two - three week {:>). I suspect that the lack of an intake manifold during that period, the absence of any oil and the high humidity of that period all placed a part. Just one of those things you learn about. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Barber Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:24 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] TX Rotary Velocity update As y'all likely remember I had to redo my strakes following finding my Jeffco fuel tank sealant had failed a few months ago. A few days ago I applied some micro on my hopefully now repaired strakes. I still have to smooth and pretty up the micro, but to get away from the fiberglass work for a bit I decided to add fuel to my new strake tanks and calibrate my newly installed Atkinson fuel gages. I had about 25 gallons that I added one gallon at a time, 1/2 gallon to each side. The Velocity has a center sump tank that the two strake tanks dump into. So I added fuel to each side in approximately equal amounts to allow everything to equalize better. I filled the sump tank first and it took just under five gallons. Nothing seemed to leak confirming my air pressure test with balloons a while back. Ok, here is the good part. On a wild hair I turned power on to the plane to see if the rotary engine would turn over after sitting dormant for the last few months with only an occasional hand rotation of the prop. Not only did it turn over, it started. Wahoo. I shut it down right away as I was not in a position to play.....uh, ummm, work on it. But I was tickled it started almost immediately. After having to redo my strakes, this was a nice little experience for me. I am off work tomorrow and I hope to get out to the hangar to clean it up after a lot of fiberglass work. Maybe I will "play" with the engine a bit too. All the best, Chris Houston Cross posted on CanardZone.com & Reflector __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C9583E.1BAD7920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Glad to hear things are going a bit = better for you, Chris.  You have certainly had your trials and = tribulations – but good to see you hanging in there.  =

 

I once let my old rotary engine sit = for six weeks with the intake manifold off after I had the engine severely = flooded (gasoline pouring out the exhaust).  The flood of gasoline (due to = the old auto fuel injection system I was then using) apparently removed all traces of = oil from the apex seals and their slots.  After six weeks I tried to = start the engine and found I had zero compression – the starter motor turned = over the engine and prop like it was going to get us airborne.  =

 

To make a long story short after a = week of poking through the exhaust port I managed to break loose all BUT ONE of = the seals.  Eventually had to take the engine off and even then broke = the one apex seal to get it out.  Since then I go out and do a start up every = two – three week {:>).

 

I suspect that the lack of an = intake manifold during that period, the absence of any oil and the high = humidity of that period all placed a part.  Just one of those things you learn = about.

 

Ed

 

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com=

http://www.andersonee.com

http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

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From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Barber
Sent: Sunday, December = 07, 2008 1:24 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] TX = Rotary Velocity update

 

As y'all likely remember I had to redo my strakes following = finding my Jeffco fuel tank sealant had failed a few months ago. A few days ago I = applied some micro on my hopefully now repaired strakes. I still have to smooth = and pretty up the micro, but to get away from the fiberglass work for a bit = I decided to add fuel to my new strake tanks and calibrate my newly = installed Atkinson fuel gages.

I had about 25 gallons that I added one gallon at a time, 1/2 gallon to = each side. The Velocity has a center sump tank that the two strake tanks dump = into. So I added fuel to each side in approximately equal amounts to allow = everything to equalize better. I filled the sump tank first and it took just under = five gallons. Nothing seemed to leak confirming my air pressure test with = balloons a while back.

Ok, here is the good part. On a wild hair I turned power on to the plane = to see if the rotary engine would turn over after sitting dormant for the last = few months with only an occasional hand rotation of the prop. Not only did = it turn over, it started. Wahoo. I shut it down right away as I was not in a = position to play.....uh, ummm, work on it. But I was tickled it started almost immediately. After having to redo my strakes, this was a nice little = experience for me.

I am off work tomorrow and I hope to get out to the hangar to clean it = up after a lot of fiberglass work. Maybe I will "play" with the engine = a bit too. <g>

All the best,

Chris

Houston

 

 

Cross posted on CanardZone.com & = Reflector



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