Congratulations, Jeff!! Safe first flight
and that’s what really counts, the rest of the stuff you’ll get it
solved.
On my first flight 13B (No Thermostat –
plug the ˝” hole in the bottom of the thermostat housing if you have a
13B – not certain about the Renesis) I had oil temps up to 240F (high as
the gauge went). I don’t recall the exact temps on the coolant but I do
know they were over my 220F red line.
But, with an outside temp of 32F, I am
surprised that the coolant got that high and did not come back much when you
throttle back. However, I would say that the fact that your pressure gauge was
that high was a further indication that the coolant temp problem was real
rather than just a gauge or sensor problem. As other’s have suggested,
calibrate your sensor and gauges if you have not already done so.
Another problem may well have been the missing
belt. It is possible that particular if the two belts were not of the same
exact length and then you lost one – that the water pump load may have
been causing the belt slip and your water pump rpm may not have been where it
should have been. Any signs of belt slippage (shiny, hard glaze on the running
surface of the belt??). I fly with the dual belt racing beat/MazdaTrix pulley
and really like it.
I personally fly without a thermostat –
however, it seldom gets and stays that cold at my airport for any length of
time. Another thing is that if you are using the 13B (can’t speak for the
Renesis) with a thermostat – it MUST be a Mazda RX-7 Thermostat OR you
MUST plug the ˝” hole in the bottom of the thermostat housing. If it is
not plugged, approx 20% of your coolant flow effectiveness is compromised. IF
you have an RX-7 thermostat then it has a feature that plugs the hole when the
temps comes up but other thermostats do not.
Lets seem some photos of your cooling
ducts and system if you have any available.
Again, congratulations on the first
flight.
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008
10:03 AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] : First
Flight, short and hot
I was in the right
seat (flight engineer) when my homebuilt 2+2 made its first flight yesterday
with the 13B Mazda engine, but not without problems. The coolant temperature
reached 230F by circuit altitude; after throttle back and approach it had only
dropped to about 225F; the oil temperature was indicating only 160F (this could
be a mounting-point issue or real I’m not sure … oil temp measure
point is from a small manifold bolted to the PSRU mounting plate, with oil
flowing from engine to PSRU) outside air temperature was about 32-33F. The
coolant pressure pegged the gauge beyond 20 psi, which was a surprise as the
pressure cap is rated for 20 psi … I expected the engine to burp itself
out and maintain 20 psi.
I tightened up the
cowling around the radiator and removed the thermostat in an attempt to make a
second flight but while removing the thermostat I noticed one of the alternator
V-belts was broken … got another belt only to find it didn’t match
the other … these belts really need to be a matched-pair. Prior to
flight, I noticed the outside belt (which broke) did not have the same tension
as the inside belt; it must have climbed out of the pulley groove and got
sliced by the pulley. Previously I bought a double alternator pulley from
Racing Beat but never installed it, due to difficulty with removing the nut
… thought it best to leave well enough alone … I will now put on
that new pulley.
Hope to make another
flight next weekend if the test pilot is in agreement.
Any
comments/experience on thermostat Vs no thermostat?
Why would the
pressure cap hold beyond its rating?
Jeff Whaley
C-FJWW
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Tracy Crook
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008
3:10 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis
fuel burn
If you haven't calibrated
the EM2 fuel flow yet, the GPH reading does not mean anything. Don't make
any decisions based on that reading. Calibrating the fuel flow is
the most difficult and time consuming parts of EM2 setup. That's
the down side of doing it with such an inexpensive flow sensor ($0.00) since it
has none. The other option is to use a Floscan flow sensor with the
EM2 but they are pricy.
At 30" of manifold pressure and best power mixture setting and 6400
RPM you should get a fuel burn somewhere around 15 - 18 GPH. The exact
amount will depend on other factors like exact mixture setting, your intake
manifold, exhaust system, air temp, etc.
Tracy Crook
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
Where can I get information on fuel burn and power for the
renesis?
The maximum fuel burn I can get on takeoff is 11.7 gph
(reading on the EM2) at 64 00 rpm. The EM2 is not fully calibrated
yet! I think I should be able to get a higher fuel burn than that.
The other part of the problem. What should be the
intake manifold runner length on the Renesis. Best power has to
be between 6000 and 6500 rpm limited by the propeller and redrive
configuration. I cannot use more than 65" dia. prop.
The present runner length is 17" and I think it is not
enough.
Renesis powered Glass
Goose
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