Return-Path: Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with SMTP id 2750850 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:46:33 -0500 Received: from adsl-64-219-118-155.dsl.bumttx.swbell.net (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@64.219.118.155 with login) by smtp1.bt.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2003 03:46:31 -0000 Message-ID: <075d01c3ae4f$b30f9c60$6501a8c0@Davidscmptr> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renisis Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:46:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 >From the Mazda literature they mailed out: 2 models of engine - - Standard Power (4 port) 210hp at 7200 rpm (rev limit 7500); - High Power (6 port) 250hp at 8500 (rev limit 9000) Dave Atkins is driving a Standard Power RX-8 and says hp is about 197. This is down 13 from literature. This is consistent with what Ed reports his reply to this - the High Power is down 20 or so to approx 230. Both are 10:1 compression. No port overlap between exh & int. Supposed to be cleaner exhaust (had to be to get back into US under current rules - the 1997 or so revision). Supposed to have better fuel economy - but no numbers given for comparison or evaluation. Would be nice to see the bsfc charted along with rpm & torque, and for a sample of cruise power settings - something less than full throttle "max power" condition usually tested on the dyno. Here's the specific info on weight in the Mazda literature: 303 pounds vs 344 for "last generation" (twin turbo RX-7? - are they claiming the elimination of the twin turbos as part of the wt reduction?). "Rotor weight is cut from the previous generation's 9.5 to 8.2 lb., a reduction of almost 14 percent. The Renesis flywheel is some 20 percent lighter, . . ." David Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "JJ JOHNSON" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renisis Question for the list. I've seen lots of numbers thrown out there as to how much power this engine is 'supposed' to produce. I'm wondering if anyone has some concrete numbers as to how much 'continuous' hp's one can expect at what rpm [what is the max continuous RPM recommended?]and at what specific fuel burn? Also can this engine be turbo'd? I understand from the Factory [in the Rx8] its NA. Tracy's 2.85:1 unit should work on this engine?? As well as his electronic gizmo's? How far is this engine as far as weights [installed] from the 13B? I've got lots more but lets start there. [Or maybe someone has a web link they can pass on that helps w/ these questions] I apologize if some are these [ I suspect they probably are] redundant. Thanks Jarrett Johnson