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It was still running good, but I figured that I was on = borrowed time. =20 With the turbo, my cooling has never been really great, unless the OAT = was 40 degrees or so. After the turbo upgrade it became even worse, so = I'm in the process of rebuilding my cooling system. When Bryan rebuilt my turbo, I had him completely remove the waste gate. = I still get plenty of boost. Steve Brooks -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On = Behalf Of John Overman Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:43 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Turbo Bites the dust Steve I also have one of Bryan's upgrades. I'm not flying yet but I'm leaving = the "actuator" installed and plan to control it with a control cable = from the panel. In the off position that will cut off the exhaust to one = of the two turbine wheels. Since I will be mostly turbo-normalizing I = think it will be pretty hard to overtax the turbo. --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Steve Brooks wrote: > From: Steve Brooks > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Turbo Bites the dust > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 1:20 PM > David, > Sorry to hear about your turbo. Especially sorry since I > have one also. > As I recall though, your turbo was an 86-87, which had a > somewhat different > design. When I had mine done, the core was an 89-91, which > was about $200 > cheaper. Bryan at BNR turbo told me that the 89-91 was > much easier to > upgrade was the reason. > > I don't know if mine will last any longer though. 130 > hours of mostly WOT > doesn't really sound all that bad. It will be > interesting to see what went > bad on it. Sounds like it may be the bearings though from > the sounds of it. > > Regards, > Steve Brooks > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft > [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On > Behalf Of David Leonard > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:47 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Another Turbo Bites the dust > > Today I flew from San Diego to Brownville Texas to attend a > formation flying > clinic. After 6 hours of WOT flight I was descending > through 5000' (down > from 15.5k) an just a few miles from the airport when I had > a sudden and > sickening drop in manifold pressure. The engine was still > running fine, > and I had plenty of altitude to make the runway, so I > continued on debating > weather or not to flip the turbo oil shutoff switch. I had > grown to respect > this turbo so much that I finally decided that I had just > blown out a > fitting somewhere in the intake system downstream of the > turbo. I even > continued on to a low pass for show rather than just > landing. When I > eventually had time to take off the cowl I was dissapointed > to find that all > the fitting were in place and that the compressor wheel > turns only with > significant resistance. > > So the turbo is dead, and I am out of the formation clinic > and will have to > decide tomorrow about flying home with a dead turbo. Will > maybe be able to > take a look in the hot side and see what I see. > > This turbo was the TO4 hybrid with a fixed wide open waste > gate. It had 130 > hrs of mostly hard duty. Sigh. > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html