X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from misav06.sasknet.sk.ca ([142.165.20.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2977538 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:14:26 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=142.165.20.170; envelope-from=hjjohnson@sasktel.net Received: from bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca ([142.165.72.22]) by misav06 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:13:48 -0600 Received: from sasktel.net ([192.168.234.97]) by bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca (SaskTel eMessaging Service) with ESMTP id <0K2S00JFLMB05N50@bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:13:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.234.25] (Forwarded-For: [207.47.194.138]) by cgmail1.sasknet.sk.ca (mshttpd); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:13:48 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:13:48 -0600 From: H & J Johnson Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-id: <1e1cc76d1658.485c1d8c@sasktel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.20 (built Feb 27 2006) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal I'm a while away from anything concrete Bob, I've got my NC mill up and running and now I'm using it for things like casting patterns etc.. I figured the #1 need for rotorarians was an intake manifold so.. hence my working in that direction. Jarrett > Hi Jarrett, > > Is your time frame a month or two, or more like 6 months or more? If > you can estimate. I think I will be looking for a new intake as I > don't think the one I had on the BD-4 is going to fit in the Alpine. > > Bob W. > > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:09:03 -0600 > H & J Johnson wrote: > > > Greg, currently it's a work in progress, once I get the design > to where I think it has leg's I'll post more info. It will be a > wrap over design w/ the trottle body/carb on the plug side. > > > > Last I'd heard Mistral was selling [when they did] their intakes > for ~$800. If you built an engine for less than that.. please > dish :D It's not cheap but then investment castings and machining > etc.. generally aren't.. > > > > > > > > We'll see how it goes.. > > > > > > > > Jarrett [website is 90% done.. 90% to go... still..] > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right on that Jarrett, but I think each installation would > > > be different. I know mine was. Clearances, heat, cowling, > > > horsepower requirements, flow bench testing, and a bunch of other > > > details about driving me nuts getting mine designed and > > > fabricated, and I'm still not quite there. If you've got a design > > > that you feel works, how about letting us all in on it, then we > > > can judge, especially when it comes to cost. Mistral's I heard > > > was beautiful, but costly, probably more than I spent for the > > > entire engine, and as I said, no response from them, so I will > > > probably never know. > > > Greg > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: H & J Johnson > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:06 PM > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg this is why I've been interested in getting my own design > > > > > > into production. It's an area which most DIY's could really use > > > > > > some help.. as far as I can see it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jarrett > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you knew what I have been going through getting a turbo > > > > manifold for a 20B built, you wouldn't even try. I tried > > > > communicating with Mistral several times about one of their > > > > manifolds, there was no interest in helping me out. > > > > Greg Ward > > > > Lancair 20B in progress > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: H & J Johnson > > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:51 AM > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral/ Intake manifolds > > > > > > > > > > > > Just thought I'd ask around. A few people purchased intake > > > > manifolds from Mistral and I'm trying to find out a few things > > > > about them. > > > > > > > > First of all, what versions of the 13B did they fit? How much > > > do > > > > they weigh? Originally, what were they selling them for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I understand it, they no longer sell them to joe-public, > > > nor > > > > do the new unit's fit on the standard 13B? Are there builders > > > out > > > > there who would prefer to buy a ready to install manifold for > > > > their projects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks guy's! > > > > > > > > Jarrett Johnson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > > > > > > Archive and UnSub: > > > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > > > > Archive and UnSub: > > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > -- > > > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > -- > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com > 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding > Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/ > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html