X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2977378 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:12:24 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.32; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gB3i1Z0050vyq2s530oo00; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:11:46 +0000 Received: from gregoryii ([24.6.40.29]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gQBl1Z0040dkeQQ3RQBlEG; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:11:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OWiqdFCM434A:10 a=O3ITPTBZzRAA:10 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=uCd4WCTOK8AQ8YjepjgA:9 a=V1vG92U7DYRcmNkgcvgA:7 a=mvDjPdHirZu7inyesABJEPGvVUgA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=YcPkN_pRJGZMCjf3RqcA:9 a=1jbrMTipdAmzH79-kIAA:7 a=r7_0nU8E9Ud9-qZ_BAsLz2sm4ScA:4 a=Hs9J3SXIuHcA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:14:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C8D2F9.28354AD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C8D2F9.28354AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I stand corrected, although I think that $800 may have been for a 13B. = Looking forward to seeing your design. Greg ----- Original Message -----=20 From: H & J Johnson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds Greg, currently it's a work in progress, once I get the design to = where I think it has leg's I'll post more info. It will be a wrap over = design w/ the trottle body/carb on the plug side. Last I'd heard Mistral was selling [when they did] their intakes for = ~$800. If you built an engine for less than that.. please dish :D It's = not cheap but then investment castings and machining etc.. generally = aren't.. We'll see how it goes..=20 Jarrett [website is 90% done.. 90% to go... still..] > You're right on that Jarrett, but I think each installation would=20 > be different. I know mine was. Clearances, heat, cowling,=20 > horsepower requirements, flow bench testing, and a bunch of other=20 > details about driving me nuts getting mine designed and=20 > fabricated, and I'm still not quite there. If you've got a design=20 > that you feel works, how about letting us all in on it, then we=20 > can judge, especially when it comes to cost. Mistral's I heard=20 > was beautiful, but costly, probably more than I spent for the=20 > entire engine, and as I said, no response from them, so I will=20 > probably never know.=20 > Greg=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: H & J Johnson=20 > To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:06 PM=20 > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Greg this is why I've been interested in getting my own design=20 >=20 > into production. It's an area which most DIY's could really use=20 >=20 > some help.. as far as I can see it..=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Jarrett=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > If you knew what I have been going through getting a turbo=20 > > manifold for a 20B built, you wouldn't even try. I tried=20 > > communicating with Mistral several times about one of their=20 > > manifolds, there was no interest in helping me out.=20 > > Greg Ward=20 > > Lancair 20B in progress=20 > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > From: H & J Johnson=20 > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:51 AM=20 > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral/ Intake manifolds=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Just thought I'd ask around. A few people purchased intake=20 > > manifolds from Mistral and I'm trying to find out a few things=20 > > about them.=20 > >=20 > > First of all, what versions of the 13B did they fit? How much=20 > do=20 > > they weigh? Originally, what were they selling them for.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > As I understand it, they no longer sell them to joe-public,=20 > nor=20 > > do the new unit's fit on the standard 13B? Are there builders=20 > out=20 > > there who would prefer to buy a ready to install manifold for=20 > > their projects?=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks guy's!=20 > >=20 > > Jarrett Johnson=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > >=20 > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 > >=20 > > Archive and UnSub: =20 > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 >=20 > Archive and UnSub: =20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C8D2F9.28354AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I stand corrected, although I think that $800 = may have=20 been for a 13B.  Looking forward to seeing your = design.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 H & J=20 Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 = 5:09 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Mistral/ Intake=20 manifolds

Greg, currently it's a work in progress, once I get the design to = where I=20 think it has leg's I'll post more info. It will be a wrap over design = w/ the=20 trottle body/carb on the plug side.

Last I'd heard Mistral was selling [when they did] their intakes = for ~$800.=20 If you built an engine for less than that..  please dish :D  = It's=20 not cheap but then investment castings and machining etc.. generally=20 aren't..

 

We'll see how it goes..

 

Jarrett [website is 90% done.. 90% to go... still..]

 

 

> You're right on that Jarrett, but I think each installation = would=20
> be different.  I know mine was.  Clearances, heat, = cowling,=20
> horsepower requirements, flow bench testing, and a bunch of = other=20
> details about driving me nuts getting mine designed and =
>=20 fabricated, and I'm still not quite there.  If you've got a = design=20
> that you feel works, how about letting us all in on it, then = we=20
> can judge, especially when it comes to cost.  Mistral's = I heard=20
> was beautiful, but costly, probably more than I spent for the =
> entire engine, and as I said, no response from them, so I = will=20
> probably never know.
> Greg
>  ----- = Original=20 Message -----
>  From: H & J Johnson
>  = To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
>  Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:06 PM=20
>  Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral/ Intake manifolds =
>=20
>
>
>
>
>  Greg this is why = I've been=20 interested in getting my own design
>
>  into = production.=20 It's an area which most DIY's could really use
>
>  = some=20 help.. as far as I can see it..
>
>
> =
> =20 Jarrett
>
>
>
>  > If you knew = what I have=20 been going through getting a turbo
>  > manifold for a = 20B=20 built, you wouldn't even try.  I tried
>  > = communicating=20 with Mistral several times about one of their
>  > = manifolds,=20 there was no interest in helping me out.
>  > Greg Ward =
>  > Lancair 20B in progress
>  >  = -----=20 Original Message -----
>  >  From: H & J = Johnson=20
>  >  To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>  = >  Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:51 AM
>  = > =20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Mistral/ Intake manifolds
>  >=20
>  >
>  >  Just thought I'd ask = around. A=20 few people purchased intake
>  > manifolds from Mistral = and I'm=20 trying to find out a few things
>  > about them. =
> =20 >
>  >  First of all, what versions of the 13B = did they=20 fit? How much
> do
>  > they weigh? Originally, = what=20 were they selling them for.
>  >
>  >=20
>  >
>  >  As I understand it, they = no=20 longer sell them to joe-public,
> nor
>  > do = the new=20 unit's fit on the standard 13B? Are there builders
> out =
> =20 > there who would prefer to buy a ready to install manifold for=20
>  > their projects?
>  >
>  = >=20
>  >
>  >  Thanks guy's! =
> =20 >
>  >  Jarrett Johnson
>  >=20
>  >
>  >
>  > =
> =20 > --
>  >
>  > Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/
>  >
>  > = Archive and=20 UnSub:  
>  >=20 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
> =
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>
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