X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTP id 2874565 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:20:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080427211934.GWZE19888.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:19:34 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c8a8ac$9f8a2050$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric Water pumps - Interesting Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:21:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8A88B.184191D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8A88B.184191D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageAh! you do have a point, Todd. You may end up forever with the = EWP as I have with the "Plugs UP" {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Bartrim=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric Water pumps - Interesting I did keep provisions for a relatively easy conversion to a mechanical = pump in the event of failure of the EWP experiment, however due to time = constraints myself, I really just want to get a few necessary items = taken care of, then get it back to the airport and get back in the air. = Besides I can already hear the naysayers banging the anti-EWP drum, even = if I did remove it only for an experiment..I'd have to do it in secretJ =20 Todd Bartrim =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On = Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:26 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric Water pumps - Interesting =20 Hey, Todd. If I put any more items on my projects-to-do list, I would = have to ask the Man upstairs for a much longer extension {:>). I would = love to do more experimenting, but feel its time for the "younger = generation" to take over the reigns. =20 =20 How are would it be to slap the mechanical pump back in your = installation - I mean its to cold to fly up there in the winter time = anyhow {:>) =20 Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Bartrim=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric Water pumps - Interesting =20 I think Ed is just trying to egg me on, knowing the attachment I have = to this subjectJ. Referring to Bob who reported marginal cooling with his = EWP, it would have been nice to know how the system would perform with a = mechanical pump. I'm satisfied with the performance of my Davis Craig = EWP, even though it is somewhat marginal on hot days during a 3 minute = 2000fpm climbout with boost. But I doubt the mechanical pump would do = any better. I'd like to improve my cooling system, starting with my = hailstorm damaged evap cores, but I'm still committed to using my EWP. I guess until we can get a true experimental minded type of = guy who already has a successful mechanical cooled system, to switch = over to an EWP with no other system modifications, then we will never = really answer this question. Gee Ed, you sound bored... It'd be a great way to pass the = summer? =20 Todd Bartrim Turbo 13B RV9 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On = Behalf Of Russell Duffy Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:12 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric Water pumps - Interesting =20 I was just thumbing through a recent catalog from Summit Racing and = came across a couple of pages on electric water pumps. There has always = been a degree of interest (and some debate {:>)) regarding the use of = electric water pumps in aircraft. =20 =20 Are you really that bored Ed? Maybe trying to stir up some lively = conversation, and tired of the same old fuse breaker topic :-) =20 =20 I'm off to run the single rotor again, now that I've got the RD-1C = drive back on it. Don't tell anyone, but it's only got an electric = water pump :-0 =20 Rusty (blah, blah, blah, I'm not listening, blah, blah ) =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C8A88B.184191D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Ah! you do have a point, Todd.  = You may end=20 up forever with the EWP as I have with the "Plugs UP" = {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Todd = Bartrim=20
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 = 4:48=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Electric Water=20 pumps - Interesting

I did=20 keep provisions for a relatively easy conversion to a mechanical pump = in the=20 event of failure of the EWP experiment, however due to time = constraints=20 myself, I really just want to get a few necessary items taken care of, = then=20 get it back to the airport and get back in the air. Besides I can = already hear=20 the naysayers banging the anti-EWP drum, even if I did remove it only = for an=20 experiment=85.I=92d have to do it in secretJ

 

Todd=20 Bartrim

<= SPAN=20 class=3DEmailStyle19> 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed = Anderson
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 = 11:26=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Electric Water pumps - Interesting

 

Hey,=20 Todd.  If I put any more items on my projects-to-do list, I = would=20 have to ask the Man upstairs for a much longer extension = {:>).  I=20 would love to do more experimenting, but feel its time for the = "younger=20 generation" to take over the reigns. 

 

How are=20 would it be to slap the mechanical pump back in your installation - I = mean its=20 to cold to fly up there in the winter time anyhow = {:>)

 

Ed

----- = Original=20 Message -----

From: Todd = Bartrim=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Sunday, = April 27,=20 2008 1:37 PM

Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Electric Water pumps - Interesting

 

I=20 think Ed is just trying to egg me on, knowing the attachment I have to = this=20 subjectJ.

          =20 Referring to Bob who reported marginal cooling with his EWP, it = would=20 have been nice to know how the system would perform with a mechanical = pump.=20 I=92m satisfied with the performance of my Davis Craig EWP, even = though it is=20 somewhat marginal on hot days during a 3 minute 2000fpm climbout with = boost.=20 But I doubt the mechanical pump would do any better. I=92d like to = improve my=20 cooling system, starting with my hailstorm damaged evap cores, but = I=92m still=20 committed to using my EWP.

          =20 I guess until we can get a true experimental minded type of guy = who=20 already has a successful mechanical cooled system, to switch over to = an EWP=20 with no other system modifications, then we will never really answer = this=20 question.

          =20 Gee Ed, you sound bored... It=92d be a great way to pass the=20 summer?

 

Todd=20 Bartrim

Turbo=20 13B RV9

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Russell = Duffy
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 = 8:12=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Electric Water pumps - Interesting

 

I = was just=20 thumbing through a recent catalog from Summit Racing and came across a = couple=20 of pages on electric water pumps.  There has always been a = degree of=20 interest (and some debate {:>)) regarding the use of electric water = pumps=20 in aircraft.   

 

Are you = really that=20 bored Ed?  Maybe trying to stir up some lively conversation, and = tired of=20 the same old fuse breaker topic :-) 

 

I'm off to = run the=20 single rotor again, now that I've got the RD-1C drive back on = it. =20 Don't tell anyone, but it's only got an electric water pump=20 :-0

 

Rusty (blah, = blah,=20 blah, I'm not listening, blah, blah <g>)

 

 

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