X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2719274 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:41:21 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([75.191.190.141]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080207134041.RBZH23667.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:40:41 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c8698f$08a378f0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Hardwire? [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition advance Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:40:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Ernest, not familiar with your EFI system. However, your statement about hardwiring it for 20 deg and then using the computer to add advance caught my attention - normally that is not how it is done. It is difficult for a CPU design to "ADD" or advance ignition timing from a static timing point as that implies it has to know in advance (precognition but not pre-ignition - sorry, couldn't help it) when the next firing event is coming. All of the EFI units that I am familiar will set or "Hardwire" the static timing to the maximum amount of ignition timing advance they will ever want. Then the computer is used to retard the timing from that point which is much easier to do. Tracy's EC2 uses this method and that is why his instruction have you set the static ignition timing to 31-35 Deg BTDC and then the CPU simply backs off to there to the "Advance" you want. FWIW Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ignition advance > lehanover@aol.com wrote: >> Lynn,? >> ? >> You've told us that the rotary like about 25 degrees BTDC of advance, and >> will run well at most any speed at that setting. Does that include >> starting speed? How much will performance be degraded as you back off to >> 10 degrees BTDC?? >> >> >> For starting, I don,t know if you could tell. But off idle it would be un >> responsive, and have high EGTs. It has a very short stroke and very low >> torque. If you are worried about over advanced ignition causing a >> problem, just do 20 degrees. Once it gets broken in after 5 hours of hard >> running, it will start instantly at any setting between 20 and 27 >> degrees.? >> > Perfect! Absolutely perfect! I can hardwire it to fire at 20, and then > have the computer add in more at speed. > > The mount I made for the VR sensors yesterday won't work. I made it just > shy of a 1/4" to short on the left-hand side. Luckily, I have plenty of > aluminum to destroy. > > -- > > http://www.ronpaultimeline.com > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >