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Lehanover@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/3/2008 7:26:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:
> 
>     Mark, ACI is the place where I ordered my PRF 83282 after my brake
>     fire back in 2005.
>     I could not find it anyplace at the time where you could get a
>     quantity less than 1 gallon.  Most FBO appear not interested and are
>     sticking with the more flammable 5606 - I mean there is no point in
>     switching if you're never going to have a hydraulic oil fire {:>). 
>     The 83282 flash point is over 200F higher than that of the 5606
>      
>     Ed
> 
> If you mount a single piston slider style caliper, provision must be 
> made to allow for the caliper to move when cycled. It slides a bit in 
> the bracket, just like the ones on cars. The hard line must end with a 
> bulkhead fitting in a rigid bracket on the landing gear. A flex line 
> runs to the caliper to allow for the movement. With no flex line, the 
> hard line will fail from metal fatigue. Some folks add a loop to the 
> hard line next to the caliper hoping that will be enough. It didn't work 
> on th HUMVEE and it won't work on an airplane.Try some Lockheed 550 
> racing brake fluid from the hot rod shop. Compatible with almost any 
> seals 550 degree wet boiling point..
>  
> If you really like to turn the rotors orange, and have sparks trailing 
> you down the center line, Try Willwood
> 600 racing brake fluid. 600 degree wet boiling point used in braking 
> systems where a coolant pump runs the fluid through a cooler when line 
> pressure is down. Fix the installation and quit using flammable brake 
> fluids.
>  
> Soak an old set of seals in the stuff before using it.
>  
> No brakes can be as bad as no brakes and a fire. Carbon fiber race pads 
> would be great on airplanes. Feels solid. Lasts a long time. Pretty 
> cheap. Shine up the rotors like chrome. No gouges. Maintain braking 
> effect right through bright orange. No brake fade from over temps. 
>  
> Lynn E. Hanover
>  

Hmmm...Can you buy raw carbon fiber pad stock? If so, it should be easy 
to cut/drill to fit standard Cleveland/Matco backing plates & just mount 
using the standard rivets. Are carbon pads riveted to the backplates in 
automotive applications, like they are in aviation brakes?

Charlie