X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTP id 2630751 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:30:55 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([24.74.103.61]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080104143014.JMTD2942.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:30:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c84ede$5b5480b0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake fluid-compatable Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:30:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C84EB4.72322D70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C84EB4.72322D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, on the RV list, there have been assertions that Automatic = Transmission Fluid is a suitable substitute for brake hydraulic fluid - = for what that's worth. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bmears9413@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake fluid-compatable I havent finished my brakes as of yet, but this conversation made me = wonder what was recommended for my plane. to my suprise, Supermarine = recommends ATF! Bob Mears Supermarind Spitfire -----Original Message----- From: Ed Anderson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 7:37 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake fluid-compatable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: WRJJRS@aol.com=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:36 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake fluid-compatable In a message dated 1/3/2008 4:26:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, = eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes: Mark, ACI is the place where I ordered my PRF 83282 after my brake = fire back in 2005. I could not find it anyplace at the time where you could get a = quantity less than 1 gallon. Most FBO appear not interested and are = sticking with the more flammable 5606 - I mean there is no point in = switching if you're never going to have a hydraulic oil fire {:>). The = 83282 flash point is over 200F higher than that of the 5606 Ed And they are both crap compared to modern automotive fluids! Sorry I = couldn't help myself. But that corn oil mung will never see the inside = of my brake cylinders. I'm not looking for an arguement just stating a = fact. Bill Jepson You are undoubtedly correct, Bill. However, aircraft insurance = companies sometimes get picky about what is substituted for "Aircraft = approved" products. Also, There have been a number of stories in the = past about folks attempting to use automotive brake fluid in aircraft = brake systems only to find out their seals were not compatible and ended = up having to disassemble and replace brake seals. So naturally, you = want to make certain the entire system components is compatible with = what ever brake fluid you are using. Ed Ed=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new = year.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail! ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C84EB4.72322D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bob, on the RV list, there have been assertions = that=20 Automatic Transmission Fluid is a suitable substitute for brake = hydraulic fluid=20 - for what that's worth.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 bmears9413@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 = 8:58=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non = flamable=20 brake fluid-compatable

I havent finished my brakes as of yet, but this conversation made = me=20 wonder what was recommended for my plane. to my suprise, Supermarine=20 recommends ATF!
 
Bob Mears
Supermarind Spitfire


-----Original = Message-----
From: Ed=20 Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t;
To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent:=20 Fri, 4 Jan 2008 7:37 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non flamable brake = fluid-compatable

 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 WRJJRS@aol.com=20
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Friday, January 04, = 2008 3:36=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: non = flamable=20 brake fluid-compatable

In a message dated 1/3/2008 4:26:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, = eanderson@carolina.rr.com=20 writes:
Mark, ACI is the place where I ordered my = PRF 83282=20 after my brake fire back in 2005.
I could not find it anyplace at the time = where you=20 could get a quantity less than 1 gallon.  Most FBO appear not = interested and are sticking with the more flammable 5606 - I mean = there is=20 no point in switching if you're never going to have a hydraulic = oil fire=20 {:>).  The 83282 flash point is over 200F higher than that = of the=20 5606
 
Ed
And they are both crap compared to modern automotive fluids! = Sorry I=20 couldn't help myself. But that corn oil mung will never see the = inside of my=20 brake cylinders. I'm not looking for an arguement just stating a = fact.
Bill Jepson


You are undoubtedly  correct, = Bill.=20 However, aircraft insurance companies sometimes get picky about what = is=20 substituted for "Aircraft approved" products.  Also, =  There have=20 been a number of stories in the past about folks attempting to use=20 automotive brake fluid in aircraft brake systems only to find out = their=20 seals were not compatible and ended up having to disassemble and = replace=20 brake seals.  So naturally, you want to make certain the entire = system=20 components is compatible with what ever brake fluid you are=20 using.
 
Ed
 
 
 
Ed=20

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.=20
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