Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #40943
From: <wrjjrs@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Weak Spark
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:27:56 -0500
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
AL,
Pardon me for all the basic reminders but some of these things get forgotten. Do you have a ground on the coils? often the auto coils use the engine/firewall or brackets to close the gap on the coil core. Some are internal and don't need it. The rotary isn't that hard to turn over so you should get a pretty strong spark when cranking. The starter shouldn't draw so much that the spark would diminish. In air with the plugs out you should see at least 1/4". The old mechanics rhyme was "Red is dead, blue will do, and white is all right." Be sure that you have a good solid wire for eletrical FEED to the coils. Sometimes we don't do that right. I know you have run this engine a lot including dyno time, so I'm sorry for the ultra basic stuff, but sometimes we tend to blow right past it, once we have the engine running.
Bill Jepson


-----Original Message-----
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:18 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Weak Spark

 
 
All this talk of weak spark got me thinking again about my 20B. It has the stock CAS. I have found that the spark is weak and sometimes intermittent when cranking.  When I noted this, I was sure something was wrong.  I then checked using the Mode 8, and the spark was great. It would start and run, so I forgot about it. The engine always started and runs fine, but I have noticed more recently on cold mornings (meaning about 40F here in SoCal) that the starting was a little more hesitant, and would fire intermittently for a bit before getting going.
 
I recall when we were checking timing on the dyno, it would not fire the timing light consistently – figured it was the light.  On recent flights, on two occasions, after steady cruise for ½ hour or so; there was a very short duration power sag; just a second or two and then back to normal.  No roughness; just some power loss that gets your attention, and then it’s OK.  I’m burning unleaded mogas, so shouldn’t be the famous S.A.G. others have experienced.  I have no explanation.
 
These things, taken together, make me wonder if I’m really getting the strong spark I should be getting.  I know that during cranking it is barely enough to fire the plugs.  I haven’t checked it when running cuz it’s a little difficult to hold a wire off and see how far the spark will jump when that prop is going right there.  But I guess I need to make a check of that.
 
What sort of cranking spark should be expected? Other ideas on what to check? Is it something about the EC2 and the CAS?
 
Al
 
 
 
 
 
Subject: [FlyRotary] flooding
 
I made it out to the airport today, soldered up the CAS and installed it.  Before I cranked it over, I put it in mode 8 and fired it off.  The usual nice blue sparks.  Then set it to mode 0 and cranked with the plugs out and pumps/inj off.  No spark.  Cranked and looked again.  Every so often there would be a weak spark or 3, but most of the time, nothing.  So little or no spark

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