X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from host.roblinphoto.com ([72.52.218.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTPS id 2629463 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:25:45 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.52.218.78; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229]:59453 helo=quail) by host.roblinphoto.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JATWW-0007m7-2Y for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:06:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:24:07 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis CAS Message-Id: <20080103102407.9aacccbe.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart=_Thu__3_Jan_2008_10_24_07_-0700_WAhqeM6uEc5DvuAj" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.roblinphoto.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart=_Thu__3_Jan_2008_10_24_07_-0700_WAhqeM6uEc5DvuAj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bobby, They are crimp connectors. I've attached the crimp instructions I send out with the connectors (usually). If I didn't send you a sample crimp, let me know and I will send one out. The 6 and 8 pin connectors used on the LS-1 Harness are the same series of connectors as the D580 coil connectors so they use the same crimp. Bob W. On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:57:07 -0600 "Bobby J. Hughes" wrote: > Thanks Bob... I hope to be wiring mine by mid month. One more question > regarding the LS1 coil connectors you sent with the harness. Are they > crimp or solder type? If crimp, what tool do you recommend? > > Thanks,,, Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of Bob White > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:40 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis CAS > > Hi Bobby, > > That is correct on the 13B CAS. I hadn't specifically noted that those > two wires from the CAS needed to be connected together. It was more of > a documentation change than a wiring change but could have caused some > confusion. > > On the Renesis CAS only two wires are used. Pin 22, white wire, is > connected to CAS pin B and pin 23, white/orange wire, is connected to > CAS pin A. Wire colors refer to the shielded cable I use for the CAS. > > Bob W. > > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:57:59 -0600 > "Bobby J. Hughes" wrote: > > > Don, > > > > I have an email from Bob White regarding a possible wiring change on > > the 13B CAS. > > "One of my customers found an error in the call out for the CAS > > wiring.The white wire on the CAS cable needs to be connected to both > > the white and white/black wires on the CAS. Please make a note of this > > > change in your instructions. This only applies to EC2 instructions > > that say Mod 1 on the title page." > > > > > > > > Bob can you clarify this? My EC2 manual is at the hanger. I do not > > remember these wires being tied together on Marks but could be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > This is a quote from a Motec and Star Mazda document. Different ECU > > but the gap they specify seems to fit what you are measuring at the > > stock location. This also fits what Mark and I observed with a scope. > > As the rpm's increase the peak to peak voltage increases. > > > > "The output of the eccentric shaft sensor is surface speed dependant > > and is adversely effected by gap. Errors during cranking on a car that > > > will not start may be rectified by adjusting the sensor gap to be > > 0.030" ~ 0.050" " > > > > If I remember correctly the sensor mount is between the CAS and > > trigger wheel. Do you have any washers between the CAS and mount that > > could be removed to close the gap? > > > > Bobby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com > 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding > Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/ > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/ --Multipart=_Thu__3_Jan_2008_10_24_07_-0700_WAhqeM6uEc5DvuAj Content-Type: text/plain; name="crimp_instructions.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="crimp_instructions.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crimping the D580 connector pins. I use a fairly expensive crimper made for theses pins. I've included a sample crimp to show what a good crimp should look like and a couple of extra pins and to practice on. The crimp needs to be made fairly close to this for proper seating of the pin in the connector body. The wire crimp can be made with a GC/Waldon crimper using the B opening. If there is any question of the crimp quality, add a little solder to the connection. Be sure the solder doesn't flow back into the front of the pin and doesn't have any protrusions. The seal crimp should be round. I've done this crimp with long nose pliers by carefully rolling the tabs around the seal. Also, sometimes when crimping, the pin gets bent a little. It must be straight to fit into the opening properly. I hold the center of the pin just in front of the wire crimp and push on the crimp area with my finger to straighten it. When pushing the pin into the socket, push on the seal rather than pushing on the wire. Otherwise, the seal will sometimes slip out of the crimp. Use white seals for wire dia. of 0.063 (1.60) to 0.085 (2.15) in (mm) Use red seals for wire diameters of 0.080 (2.03) to 0.112 ( 2.85) in (mm) --Multipart=_Thu__3_Jan_2008_10_24_07_-0700_WAhqeM6uEc5DvuAj--