X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTP id 2627370 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:25:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.5; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from Lehanover@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.bc3.1e40720c (48576) for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:24:44 -0500 (EST) From: Lehanover@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:24:59 EST Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Magic Vapor Cycle Engines To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1199244299" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1199244299 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/1/2008 6:18:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lendich@optusnet.com.au writes: Lynn, NSU used the fuel through the rotor, to cool the rotor, but it also heated the fuel for better combustion. I can't remember what the draw back with this system was - is it reduced VE? and are you suggesting that this could be off-set with forced induction George ( down under) The KKM version that the NSU engineers reverted to is the one we have today. The actual Wankel choice was his KDM as you describe, and it was full of interesting features, and work on it ended by 1958. Only three were built. It had the rotor housing rotating as well as the rotor. So the engine had to be disassembled to change the spark plugs. So an additional external housing was required to get the thing to work in anything. I took two racing engineers to the Air Force museum in Dayton Ohio. They have a cut away of a LeRhone Rotary engine with a button to push to make it operate. The crankshaft is bolted through the fire wall. The crank is hollow and the fuel air mixture enters through the crank. A carb with no throttle is mounted on the crank between the rudder pedals. Power is 100% all of the time. A shorting button on top of the stick could short the ignition out when you wanted less that full throttle. It is a piston port 2 cycle with ball bearings everywhere. It has a single exhaust valve in the top of each cylinder. The propeller bolts the rear of the crank case. The fuel was crap, and caster beans provided the lubrication and diarrhea for a few weeks until the pilot had been killed or got used to the caster bean oil blowing into his face. So induction through the crank was not new. In the KDM it was the only way to do it. Would you like to hand prop a plane while knowing it was at full throttle? Lynn E. Hanover **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------------------------1199244299 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 1/1/2008 6:18:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 lendich@optusnet.com.au writes:

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Lynn,

NSU used the fuel through the rotor, to c= ool the=20 rotor, but it also heated the fuel for better combustion.

I can't remember what the draw back with=20= this=20 system was - is it reduced VE?

and are you suggesting that this could be= off-set=20 with forced induction

George ( down=20 under)

The KKM version that the NSU engineers reverted to is the one we have=20 today. The actual Wankel choice was his KDM as you describe, and it was full= of=20 interesting features, and work on it ended by 1958. Only three were built.

It had the rotor housing rotating as well as the rotor. So the engine h= ad=20 to be disassembled to change the spark plugs. So an additional external hous= ing=20 was required to get the thing to work in anything.

I took two racing engineers to the Air Force museum in Dayton Ohio. The= y=20 have a cut away of a LeRhone

Rotary engine with a button to push to make it operate. The crankshaft=20= is=20 bolted through the fire wall. The crank is hollow and the fuel air mixt= ure=20 enters through the crank. A carb with no throttle is mounted on the crank=20 between the rudder pedals.

Power is 100% all of the time. A shorting button on top of the stick co= uld=20 short the ignition out when you wanted less that full throttle. It is a pist= on=20 port 2 cycle with ball bearings everywhere. It has a single exhaust valve in= the=20 top of each cylinder. The propeller bolts the rear of the crank case. T= he=20 fuel was crap, and caster beans provided the lubrication and diarrhea f= or a=20 few weeks until the pilot had been killed or got used to the caster bean oil= =20 blowing into his face.

So induction through the crank was not new. In the KDM it was the only=20= way=20 to do it.

Would you like to hand prop a plane while knowing it was at full=20 throttle?

Lynn E. Hanover

See AOL's top rated recipes and ea= sy ways to stay in shape for winter.

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