X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from pop3.greatbasin.net ([207.228.35.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTP id 2627299 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:46:24 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.228.35.5; envelope-from=drwalker@gbis.com Received: from yourca39e8756f (rno-dsl1a-171.gbis.net [216.82.142.171]) by pop3.greatbasin.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m020jfMs001528 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:45:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000601c8557d$d96b73f0$ab8e52d8@yourca39e8756f> From: "Don Wallker" To: Subject: Floooooding! Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:47:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8553A.CAC76B30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8553A.CAC76B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The list has been a little quiet lately, so I hope this will liven it up = a little. I'm at a loss as to how to get my engine running, so = hopefully you guys will have the correct answer. Or at least move me in = the right direction. =20 My renesis RV-8 is complete and I tried starting it 2 weeks ago and = all I could get it to do is flood. First a little background on the = installation. =20 New Renesis, 4 port automatic from Bruce Turrentine. He does nice = work! All Tracy's stuff with all the new upgrades and I have installed = a floscan fuel flow sensor with the wiring changes between the EM-2 and = EC-2. Also have Bob's wiring harnesses to the EM-2 and EC-2 and the = LS-1 coils. I have installed the primary/secondary injector disable = switches and the coil disable. Bob's harnesses are the way to go! I = have gone through and checked all the wiring with an ohm meter. Even = pulled the crank angle sensor, unpotted it and brought it home where the = repair dvd is and it reads the correct 1193 ohms and there is a change = when I move metal near it. The crank pickup wheel can only be mounted = one way so than can't be the problem. I have set everything back to the = original settings on the EM-2. I have run the new injector test (Mode = 2) and they click like mad and I can turn them on and off with the Inj = disable switches. I have pulled the irridium plugs and tested them = (mode8) and they fire a bright blue. Tracy, love the test modes! I = have tried all of the ways Tracy says to start it and all the ways = everyone else on the list does it. Still floods. I am getting very = tired of taking the plugs out, cleaning with carb cleaner and blowing = them out and then cranking the engine to purge the fuel. My neighbors = are very good to stand by with extingishers and telling me to stop when = gas dribles out the exhaust.=20 I have checked my fuel pressure with a seperate gauge, 34 psi one = pump, 37 with 2. Using O2 sensor, but of course that does'nt kick in = until auto-tune. I have the stock red Renesis injectors in the primary = ports and the blue in the secondary. These injectors are used, but I = had them cleaned and flow checked. Yes I know that the rear rotor, next = to the pully is rotor 1 and of course the leading and trailing plug hole = are marked as are the spark plugs. I have triple checked that the = manifold lines are run and attached from the intake manifold to the EC-2 = ports and the one on the EM-2 is left open, as per the manual. Tracy = says that he has set up the EC-2 for the stock Renesis setup. Yes and I = try both A and B controlers. No change. The only time I could get the engine to pop, was when it was still = partly flooded and I hit mode 8 to fire the plugs. One pop. This is = being done with a fully charged, new Oddyssy battery. So, I am getting = spark, fuel (lots) and air. No way to check the timing. After 2 weeks = of this, I am at a loss and could use your suggestions. Don Walker ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C8553A.CAC76B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The list has been a little quiet = lately, so I hope=20 this will liven it up a little.  I'm at a loss as to how to get my = engine=20 running, so hopefully you guys will have the correct answer. Or at least = move me=20 in the right direction. 
    My renesis RV-8 is = complete and=20 I tried starting it 2 weeks ago and all I could get it to do is = flood. =20 First a little background on the installation.  
    New Renesis, 4 = port=20 automatic from Bruce Turrentine.  He does nice work!  All = Tracy's=20 stuff with all the new upgrades and I have installed a floscan fuel flow = sensor=20 with the wiring changes between the EM-2 and EC-2.  Also have Bob's = wiring=20 harnesses to the EM-2 and EC-2 and the LS-1 coils.  I have = installed the=20 primary/secondary injector disable switches and the coil = disable. Bob's=20  harnesses are the way to go!  I have gone through and checked = all the=20 wiring with an ohm meter.  Even pulled the crank angle sensor, = unpotted it=20 and brought it home where the repair dvd is and it reads the = correct=20 1193 ohms and there is a change when I move metal near it.  The = crank=20 pickup wheel can only be mounted one way so than can't be the=20 problem.  I have set everything back to the original settings = on the=20 EM-2.  I have run the new injector test (Mode 2) and they = click like=20 mad and I can turn them on and off with the Inj disable switches.  = I have=20 pulled the irridium plugs and tested them (mode8) and they fire a bright = blue.  Tracy, love the test modes!  I have tried all of the = ways Tracy=20 says to start it and all the ways everyone else on the list does = it.  Still=20 floods. I am getting very tired of taking the plugs out, cleaning with = carb=20 cleaner and blowing them out and then cranking the engine to purge the=20 fuel.  My neighbors are very good to stand by with extingishers and = telling=20 me to stop when gas dribles out the exhaust.
    I have checked my = fuel pressure=20 with a seperate gauge, 34 psi one pump, 37 with 2.  Using = O2 sensor,=20 but of course that does'nt kick in until auto-tune.  = I have the=20 stock red Renesis injectors in the primary ports and the blue in=20 the secondary.  These injectors are used, but I had them = cleaned and=20 flow checked.  Yes I know that the rear rotor, next to the = pully is=20 rotor 1 and of course the leading and trailing plug hole are = marked=20 as are the spark plugs.  I have triple checked that the = manifold=20 lines are run and attached from the intake manifold to the EC-2=20 ports and the one on the EM-2 is left open, as per the=20 manual.   Tracy says that he has set up the EC-2 for the stock = Renesis=20 setup. Yes and I try both A and B controlers.  No = change.
    The only time I = could get=20 the engine to pop, was when it was still partly flooded = and I hit=20 mode 8 to fire the plugs. One pop.  This = is being done with=20 a fully charged, new Oddyssy battery.   So, I am getting = spark,=20 fuel (lots) and air.  No way to check the timing.  After 2 = weeks of=20 this, I am at a loss and could use your suggestions.
 
Don Walker
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