Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #40630
From: Bobby J. Hughes <bhughes@qnsi.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Methods of charge cooling was Water/Meth injection
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:30:03 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Any idea at what altitude a 50 / 50 mix of ethanol and water would turn to vapor? What about venting and or containing the ethanol vapor?
 
Bobby


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Schertz
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:41 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Methods of charge cooling was Water/Meth injection

Ben,
Jack Morrison, at Aurora Airport is running methanol-water injection in a supercharged IO-540 in an E-racer. It lowered his cylinder head and EGT temperatures.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS (reserved)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Methods of charge cooling was Water/Meth injection

Ben, here is a URL that gives a number of different ways to cool the intake charge.  You may find it interesting
 
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:00 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Water/Meth injection

I have moved away from the Rotary (shame on me) and toward the Subaru. I have been researching how to get more torque and found the only way is with boost. The street Subaru guys are injecting water and methanol to avoid detonation under high boost--getting 450 hp from 2.5 liters. The methanol and water cool the charge while the methanol also increases the octane. This allows them to run 89 or 91 octane fuel under low boost w/o injection and have high octane-high boost with injection. The injection is set to start at a certain boost pressure or rpm level.
 
I am going to go this route in my aerobatic biplane so I can run on cheap fuel in econo cruise and still not detonate while doing full throttle aerobatics.
 
One of the side benefits of this injection is lower EGTs--as much as 400 degrees. Has anyone done any testing with water injection to lower EGTs?
 
Another benefit is much cleaner combustion chambers. That sounds useful to me, too.
 
 
 
Ben 
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