X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com ([171.71.176.117] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2556227 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:39:58 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=171.71.176.117; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Dec 2007 14:39:21 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lB4MdLUq025893 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:39:21 -0800 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lB4MdK75003769 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 22:39:21 GMT Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:39:20 -0500 Received: from [10.82.241.74] ([10.82.241.74]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:39:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4755D717.8040202@nc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:39:19 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Giving up on single rotor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2007 22:39:20.0478 (UTC) FILETIME=[82BB0BE0:01C836C6] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=echristley@nc.rr.com; dkim=neutral Thomas Jakits wrote: > Lynn, Bill, George, Richard - anyone knows what I am talking about? Any > possible application for the 1-rotor? > Am I full of it?? > This is one of many methods of dealing with torque reversals. In this case is the idea that you do no pull backwards on the load. You let the load fly ahead forward on its own. The problem with this method is there isn any backpressure on the crank when the next cylinder fires. The crank flies ahead and slams into the load. I believe this makes the problem worse in most cases. Al's method is the best way, as I see it. An engine drives a load around a circle with a series of hammer pulses. The object is to couple those hammer blows to the load with just enough spring that the blows even out to one long push. The amount of spring needed relies on the rotational moment of the load, the spring's constant, and the spring's torque arm. The rotational moment is static for a given propeller, and the constant and torque arm for the spring are nicely summed with a torque wrench. A complete model would require measuring the amplitude and frequency of the hammer blows, but a graph built from a few experiments like Rusty conducted will allow one to plot where the system resonates and home in on an appropriate amount of spring.