X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with SMTP id 2500153 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:20:43 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.199.39; envelope-from=ron2369@sbcglobal.net Received: (qmail 86739 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Nov 2007 02:20:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FNuQC2cblB+8FzcqYFUIQKkPWbkKVOI/h9A3HX5R70FgtJiN1f7t2byfAMMVCO6KfCr2HPcmzgDrNVXJi8uYvVns+VJh+Ty1Y1StJ0NJoO4esKtZJwW3lBofFXM5MBgess3HJFbhkJzISzAOOZs1kI+2m+LcHCQL36iG+DJip6A=; X-YMail-OSG: DD1XxzgVM1lW4gvHBDKxCzvA8KglhvvL2aNBC9hucMhG0Nwq22M03nZki1z1pr.Jjl7pvKFHO9I1XVen3vE3fTu9hsxkcIDI7jBusy5HlYaJLQg2AzY- Received: from [192.146.217.215] by web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:06 PST Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:20:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Springer Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Naca Report on Radiator Thickness To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <111670.85765.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, engineering judgement tells me that your drag increase is still too low. Now I'll just have to prove it by looking at that report, or elsewhere. Sounds like a good project for the long holiday weekend, or I could just work on my Cozy ... it will be a tough call! Ron --- Ed Anderson wrote: > > Ok, Ron, I went back and looked at the drag aspects > again. It looks like > the calculation was accurate, however, I think this > will put it into a > better perspective than before. > > The frontal drag at 120 mph for the 1 square foot > radiator (using just the > frontal area - no drag coefficient) was > > 37.63 lbf/ft^2, the "internal skin" drag of the 4" > thick radiator was 6.7 > lbf/ft^2. The skin drag for the 1" thick rad was > 4.28 lbf/ft^2. So > comparing the 6.7 with the 4.28 was where I came up > with the 58% increase in > skin drag. > > However, adding the frontal and skin drag factors > for the "total" drag, I > get 37.62 lbf/ft^2 + 4.28 lbf/ft^2 = 40.98 lbf/ft^2 > total drag for the 1" > rad. For the 4" rad 37.62 + 6.7 = 44.32 lbf/ft^2, > so based on that it > appears that the total drag was increased by > 41.90/44.32 = 5.5% more total > drag for the 4" radiator than for the 1" radiator. > It might be a tad bit > less than that due to the 5% decrease in mass flow > on the frontal area of > the thicker rad. > > At least that is the way it appears to me. > > Ed > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >