X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.233.170.186] (HELO rn-out-0102.google.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2497303 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:49:28 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.170.186; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id e13so1235320rng for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:48:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qlgsfZ+AdAVFB+bbq7rxD5SWnuU8mcF6cyV3UR9begU=; b=NnrYyyDJcn543jnOOk6gwsl3xYDcZ50yZqa3Ox2p2fQgao11hDVQZb3QUgu5Cz+SnfVlnLndimweqRkUTjQhoSOyng3p0SIMpiKxE+7bVY3RPH/vUN/VAPC7VBJ8tSCX0cShNbQ1bs7G8zht6vHrqqhXDio8+EfEZq69yyWH2WI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Le6BZVgUbvSKCTJbESvEvOjbl39VojLcsxInVE3dOnD8U16StYY7j85U9CMe38rrl5QKs+KqAw5A7C4/DblNSPV7ZEpVohN+SR0UKjgaXHhNbhq2yWX2Mlp2WHGOzKuIXCq1IAaXVEcMftk6k+emUPAXhgQMxMbNPAueMoIlRxk= Received: by 10.151.13.7 with SMTP id q7mr759611ybi.1195555729290; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.10.17 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:48:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5cf132c0711200248h40b6835ct3ffd3309fa948698@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:48:49 -0600 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: heat exchanger placement In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: George, That describes my cooling system exactly. Originally, I had the oil/water exchanger first, followed by the oil/air exchanger. This dumped a max amount of btu's into the water. By running the oil through the oil/air exchanger first, then into the oil/water exchanger, it now dumps as much heat into the air. The remaining heat goes into the coolant. This only works if you have excess water cooling capacity, which I did. Now the temps track within 5-8* of each other. The drawback is the extra plumbing, and some extra weight. Mark On Nov 20, 2007 12:37 AM, George Lendich wrote: > > > Why stop with the radiator? Move the oil cooler there as well to make this > approach worth all the effort. And there will be a lot of effort : ) > > > > > Tracy > > Quite correct Tracy, > Nearly everyones favorite example the P-51 used stacked radiator and oil > coolers. My thought is if you go to the trouble of a wing mount or belly > scoop run a slightly larger radiator and one of the large fluidyne water to > oil coolers. (much to P.L's chagrin) Many nascar teams do use them. Mark > Stetle (sic) put one on his 20B powered Lancair and it has helped his climb > cooling a lot. His is a Lancair ES 4 place and seems to be cooling very well > now. > Bill jepson > > > Bill, > Can't remember who - but the suggestion of an air cooler before the water > to oil cooler is a good one. Would certainly stop any possibility of oil > over heating the water and have the added benefit of the water heating the > oil. > George (down under)