X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2496382 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:36:02 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.207; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.cb2.21add247 (37122) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from FWM-M11 (fwm-m11.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.75]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA018-91024741f381203; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:35:14 -0500 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 16X Rotary Engine. Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:35:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8C9F902D2AAC2A7_53C_412B_FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-STANDARD Received: from 65.161.241.3 by FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:35:14 -0500 Message-Id: <8C9F902D2AAC2A7-53C-200D@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.168.75 X-Spam-Flag: NO ----------MB_8C9F902D2AAC2A7_53C_412B_FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rusty, I did a discription of the piezo system in another e-mail. The reason for the high pressure on many of the common rail systems is a very short duration of the pulses. The injectors will open several times per intake stroke. As to the other bosses they may try other locations for the DI injector to improve performance. Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Russell Duffy To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:21 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 16X Rotary Engine. For gasoline?N/A direct injection requires around 18K psi. Diesels use as high as 22K psi. While this sounds scary, the equipment has been around for years and has proven reliability. Bill Jepson? ? Hi Bill, ? Since the injector is on top of the engine,?I doubt it's?going to need?any?significant increase in pressure, since there can't be any real compression at that point.?? I would think they'd fire the injector while intake air is still rushing in, to help with mixing, so there will likely be a vacuum, rather than pressure.? ? Still love the looks of this engine, and I'm with George, half of one would be nice too :-) ? Cheers, Rusty (machining my new?damper adapter..or cutting off an appendage, too soon to tell)? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9F902D2AAC2A7_53C_412B_FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Rusty, I did a discription of the piezo system in another e-mail. The reason for the high pressure on many of the common rail systems is a very short duration of the pulses. The injectors will open several times per intake stroke. As to the other bosses they may try other locations for the DI injector to improve performance.
Bill Jepson


-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Duffy <rusty@radrotary.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:21 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 16X Rotary Engine.

For gasoline N/A direct injection requires around 18K psi. Diesels use as high as 22K psi.
While this sounds scary, the equipment has been around for years and has proven reliability.
Bill Jepson 
 
Hi Bill,
 
Since the injector is on top of the engine, I doubt it's going to need any significant increase in pressure, since there can't be any real compression at that point.   I would think they'd fire the injector while intake air is still rushing in, to help with mixing, so there will likely be a vacuum, rather than pressure. 
 
Still love the looks of this engine, and I'm with George, half of one would be nice too :-)
 
Cheers,
Rusty (machining my new damper adapter..or cutting off an appendage, too soon to tell) 

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