Return-Path: Received: from [65.23.108.33] (HELO mail.tsisp.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP-TLS id 2638938 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:39:57 -0400 Received: from stevehome ([]) by mail.tsisp.com (Technical Support Inc.) with ASMTP id BGA74184 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:39:58 -0400 From: "Steve Brooks" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Fwd: Fuel systems Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:45:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.4920 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcOT17PIEYF9vr1ORJG8UAAMkh8A1AAAn6Ag In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Joe, Some builders are using a 6 port fuel valve, but that's allot of fuel = lines running around that cockpit. I wrestled with this issue for months, and finally went with the transfer pump. I plumbed both tanks to the fuel selector per the plans, with the outlet of the fuel selector feeding the engine. I will normally always run on the left tank. The fuel returns = to the left tank, and I have a facet pump to transfer from the right to the left. If that facet pumps ever fails, I can switch the fuel selector to = the right tank, and run from it. Since the fuel still returns to the left, = it will also work as a transfer. =20 That's what I decided to do, and it has some redundancy. I saw on the = acre group that some are using a 3 minute timer for the fuel transfer. Push = the button, and the pump runs for 3 minutes, which they said was about 3 gallons. I like this idea rather than just a switch, which could be = left on. I was going to build some kind of an alarm for the switch, but the timer sounds to me, like a better solution. Steve Brooks Cozy MKIV 13BT working on engine & finishing=20 South Carolina -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joseph Berki Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:22 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft > >Hi, > I know that this has been discussed before but I still have=20 >not found a good solution. The Limo EZ (same as Long EZ) has two tanks = >mid wing design. Original design requires fuel from both tanks to be=20 >fed to a valve and then back to the engine. Problem, fuel injection requires > special valve to return fuel to tank it was delivered from. This = means=20 > 3 more lines in addition to the 3 lines already in the cockpit. I=20 >think this is getting complicated. I like the sump idea creating one=20 >tank but the problem is return. If you return it to the sump you heat = >the fuel in the sump up. Is there any way to divide the fuel return=20 >so it can be returned to both tanks? If you tee the return lines does = >the fuel divide evenly? I thought about another sump to return the=20 >fuel to and let it drain into both tanks. Make it higher than the=20 >delivery sump. I am trying to avoid a transfer pump but it would need=20 >two lines instead of 3 and they could be placed outside the cockpit. =20 >What about using two pumps that can be synchronized? One could pump=20 >fuel from the right tank to the fuel rail and the other could transfer = >fuel from the left tank to the right tank depending on the fuel flow=20 >being pumped from the right tank? Return fuel would go the the left=20 >tank making a continuous loop allowing the fuel to cool? I keep=20 >thinking of my friends Bellanca with 5 fuel tanks a fuel management nightmare. Thanks for any help. > >Joe Berki >Limo EZ >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 10/6/2003 =20