X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2085172 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:32:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.5; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id q.c62.124f1b21 (52617) for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FWM-D31 (fwm-d31.webmail.aol.com [205.188.162.7]) by cia-d11.mx.aol.com (v115.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAD111-cd89466573d03a6; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:31:44 -0400 References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Single rotor video Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:31:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wrjjrs@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 27618 Received: from 65.161.241.3 by FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.7) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:31:44 -0400 Message-Id: <8C9759560447531-1520-3F16@FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.162.7 X-Spam-Flag: NO Rusty, You may be getting something that was studied with dirt bike singles=20 and narrow angle v-twins (Harleys). These engines worked well in=20 getting traction on dirt tracks due to their firing order. If I recall=20 it was called climb and retreat by the guys actually studying it. It=20 would apply to a prop very well. Your prop has at the very least some=20 flexibility in the blades. The power pulse hits and forces the blade=20 forward violently, followed by a lull. Think of it like driving a long=20 screw into wood. Every 1/2 turn you must re-position your grip. Any=20 twist in the shaft of the screwdriver is released until you start=20 turning again. The fore and aft movement might be caused by the large=20 power pulse of the single rotor. This may be a totally natural event.=20 OF course I've been wrong before, YMMV etc... Bill Jepson -----Original Message----- From: Russell Duffy To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 6:10 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Single rotor video How about a freewheel unit (slipper clutch) - should prevent alt least=20 the reversal part=A0after the power-stroke...=A0 =A0 I know Rotax used those to get rid of resonant problems with their=20 912S, and=A0if I get to the point where I have to=A0custom fit some sort of=20 coupler, I'll=A0consider trying it.=A0=A0 =A0 Also, visual impact is one thing, that may have NOTHING to do with the=20 actual blade behaviour. Unless you take a strobe and watch, you might get some "funny show" -=20 frame rate of the video, etc.=A0 =A0 This is true, but there's no optical illusion I know of that can=A0make=20 the prop move fore and aft when viewed=A0directly from the side (in the=20 arc).=A0=A0What you see is also consistent between viewing with your eyes,=20 and the camera, which is another indication that it's real.=A0 A really=20 high speed camera would be better for this=A0though.=A0 =A0 Rusty =A0 =A0 =A0 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free=20 from AOL at AOL.com. =3D0