X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2082349 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 Jun 2007 23:04:06 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.64; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([216.76.225.153]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070604030329.YLGO4923.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:03:29 -0400 Received: from [216.76.225.153] by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070604030328.USOD15590.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[216.76.225.153]> for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:03:28 -0400 Message-ID: <46638100.8020108@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:03:28 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070222 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Houston, we have a problem... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Staten wrote: > Chris got it running again today.. and he is 'getting the feel' for the > engine, and starting it. > > This is still no-load, no instrumentation engine operation.. > Instrumentation is probably the next focus: EGT on the exhaust.. > calibrate oil temp and pressure probes, as well as obtaining fuel > pressure senders. > > May take the radiator drain fitting out and use that as a temp sensing > point, or have the radiator tapped at its discharge point for that > purposes. > > > Ok.... > What we know: > > One of the secondaries had a poor connection and broken wire inside a > crimp. This caused an intermittent power condition within one of the > secondary fuel injectors. > > This is the only repair made, and starting was possible after this. This > is a very concerning failure mode. I will await Tracy's return to see > what he thinks.. > > B runs smoother than A. The only diff is an intake air temp probe on A > and non-temp adjusted values on B. > > The EC2, as programmed to defaults, is somewhat rich in the no-load > condition of our street ported (by us) engine. We are getting very good > results with manual leaning and estimated revs in the 3-4000 range with > a closed throttle, simply by using mixture to control the engine. > > None of our runs have been substantial enough to cause the thermostat to > open on the coolant circuit. Engine makes hot oil and hot water, and > sends the hot oil through the oil cooling system. > > Our RD1-B has oil circulation, and is warm to the touch from the hot oil > being circulated in it. There is minimal to no discernable drainage from > the aft oil drain hole on the RD1-B. We have good oil in, and good oil > out from the lower/forward drain hole, but none from the upper/aft one. > I have aluminum tubing and tube nuts on this run. I will make a short > "soft line" for this run, as well as for the oil feed (which is > currently a stainless "hard line" run from the stock oil pressure sensor > port to the redrive inlet port. > > Anyone have any thoughts on the injector power being a possible point of > failure? Has anyone else had a single secondary injector (presumably > staged) unpowered before and had a problem? > > Dave > Simple test: break it again & try to start it. If that really was the problem (seems unlikely) then you won't be able to start it next time, either. Basic 'scientific method' stuff. Charlie