X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2081069 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:20:26 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=CBarber@TexasAttorney.net Received: from [24.238.254.112] (helo=userte4ok6qti7) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1HugdB-0003Aw-GU for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:19:49 -0400 Message-ID: <018801c7a58e$2360e440$0301a8c0@userte4ok6qti7> From: "Christopher Barber" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Houston, we have a problem... Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 22:20:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0185_01C7A564.3A1FE570" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-ELNK-Trace: 04a7e290e6af3b12d3631fa4f7b525ef239a348a220c260919a802c2b0d7f0f2d72fbd6aaf5ceb392601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.238.254.112 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0185_01C7A564.3A1FE570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I plan to go back and read the list, espcially the stuff on Buly's = recent issues, HOWEVER, I went out to the airport after work today to show off my running engine = to him. I flipped the switches UP , hit the start button and it = started up. It ran for a bit fine, but since I was afraid I may be = running it too fast and don't want it to get too hot (if you remember we = do not have any sensors or the monitor hooked up yet, so we have been = VERY conservative since first start on Wednedsday) I throttled back to = slow down the engine. I must have throttled back too much and the = engine died. I have had this happen before, so I pushed the starter = button again and the engine just turned over and would not fire. = Sounded just like it did on Tuesday when we had the injector switches = reversed on/off...so, seemingly, no injectors. Nothing unusual = happened...no pop, no bang, no sparks, nothing. My ECU does not have the trouble shooting upgrade yet, so I checked the = plugs while turning over the engin with fuel pumps off (no prob on as = of yet) and I have spark. However, we do not seem to have any noise = coming from the injectors at all. I tried on both A and B to no avail. = After checking to see if any wires had come loose and other basic = trouble shooting, I was becoming frustrated (and a little angry) and for = the first time in my 4.9 year build I was feeling a bit discouraged. I am new to fuel injection and ECU's. Any quick guidance y'all may be = able to provide on where to start will be appreaciated. I did check to = see if the injectors were getting any power by using a test light where = the wire goes into the injector housing and three seem to be getting = power on both wires (both primaries and one secondary)....every once and = a while during this "test", I would hear a slight click, but that was = inconsistant. When I checked for power at the resistors (as our set up = uses them), the primaries did show power but the secondaries did not. This has probably all been coverd on the list and I will try to find it, = however, I am about to hit the sack since I get up at 4:30 am for work = and 10:15 pm is well past my bedtime I did take off tomorrow and I = hope to spend most of the day in the hangar, so any quick insight that I = can apply tomorrow is greatly appreciated. Heck, just y'all allowing me = to vent for a few minutes is reelly helpful. Thanks. All the best, Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0185_01C7A564.3A1FE570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I plan to go back and read the list, = espcially the=20 stuff on Buly's recent issues, HOWEVER,
 
I went out to the airport after work = today to show=20 off my running engine to him.  I flipped the switches UP <g>, = hit the=20 start button and it started up.  It ran for a bit fine, but since I = was=20 afraid I may be running it too fast and don't want it to get too hot (if = you=20 remember we do not have any sensors or the monitor hooked up yet, so we = have=20 been VERY conservative since first start on Wednedsday) I throttled back = to slow=20 down the engine.  I must have throttled back too much and the = engine=20 died.  I have had this happen before, so I pushed the starter = button again=20 and the engine just turned over and would not fire.  Sounded just = like it=20 did on Tuesday when we had the injector switches reversed on/off...so,=20 seemingly, no injectors.  Nothing unusual happened...no pop, no = bang, no=20 sparks, nothing.
 
My ECU does not have the trouble = shooting upgrade=20 yet, so I checked the plugs while turning over the engin with  fuel = pumps=20 off (no prob on as of yet) and I have spark.  However, we do not = seem to=20 have any noise coming from the injectors at all.  I tried on both A = and B=20 to no avail.  After checking to see if any wires had come = loose and=20 other basic trouble shooting, I was becoming frustrated (and a little=20 angry) and for the first time in my 4.9 year build I was = feeling=20 a bit discouraged.
 
I am new to fuel injection and = ECU's.  Any=20 quick guidance y'all may be able to provide on where to start will be=20 appreaciated.  I did check to see if the injectors were getting any = power=20 by using a test light where the wire goes into the injector housing and = three=20 seem to be getting power on both wires (both primaries and one=20 secondary)....every once and a while during this "test", I would hear a = slight=20 click, but that was inconsistant.  When I checked for power at the=20 resistors (as our set up uses them), the primaries did show power but = the=20 secondaries did not.
 
This has probably all been coverd on = the list and I=20 will try to find it, however, I am about to hit the sack since I get up = at 4:30=20 am for work and 10:15 pm is well past my bedtime <g>  I did = take off=20 tomorrow and I hope to spend most of the day in the hangar, so any quick = insight=20 that I can apply tomorrow is greatly appreciated.  Heck, just y'all = allowing me to vent for a few minutes is reelly helpful. =20 Thanks.
 
All the best,
 
Chris
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