Return-Path: Received: from bewersdorff.com ([192.220.83.90] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with SMTP id 2633388 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:17:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 48938 invoked by uid 21338); 12 Oct 2003 04:17:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rapunzel) ([216.101.149.124]) (envelope-sender ) by 192.220.83.90 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Oct 2003 04:17:25 -0000 From: "Marko Bewersdorff" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] EWP - Response from DaviesCraig Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:16:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Nicely put wording for "I'm gonna fly with your product and it is really inportant" ;-) What was the price for one or two of them? can we get a group discount :-) thanks for the info below. re Marko > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On > Behalf Of Robinson, Chad > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 7:19 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] EWP - Response from DaviesCraig > > > Hello all, > > DaviesCraig responded to my inquiry today, saying that there is > hardly any resistance to flow while the pump is off, and that a > series setup is a solution they think will work well. Their exact > response is below, but what it basically means is that no valves > and plumbing complications are required - just pass the flow from > one to the other, and you can run either pump, or both. > > This device is looking better every day! > > Oh, and yes, the all-caps was their idea, not mine. =) > > Regards, > Chad > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > DEAR CHAD, > > Thanks for your email and Davies, Craig EWP enquiry. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robinson, Chad" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:53 AM > Subject: EWP - backflow? > > > Some fellows and I are discussing the use of this pump in an area where > redundancy is preferable. I can't seem to find information on your site > regarding backflow in the event the pump is not operating. That is, what > resistance to flow exists if the pump is off? HARDLY ANY ESPECIALLY IN > COMPARISON TO THE RESISTANCE TO FLOW OF A RADIATOR TUBE. IF YOU HAVE A EWP > YOU CAN LOOK INTO THE INLET AND SEE THE SIZE OF THE OPENING PAST THE > IMPELLER AND INTO THE OUTLET. > > If it is low, we would need a check valve, but if it is high we might get > away without one. Also, if it is VERY low, we might put the pumps > in series. > PUMPS IN SERIES SOUNDS LIKE THE ANSWER > > In this second case, the goal would be to provide additional flow during > times that require high cooling, or if the first pump fails. How does this > pump handle flow above its design limit? NO TROUBLE - WE HAE MANY EWPs > INSTALLED AS A BOOSTER TO THE ORIGINAL BELT DRIVE MECHANICAL PUMP > . HERE IS > OUR TECHNICAL BULLETIN ON THIS SUBJECT. > > > EWP TECHNICAL BULLETINS > > EWP AS A BOOSTER PUMP > > What a lot of our customers in your situation have done with great success > is add the EWP (part no 8005) into the lower radiator hose, wired > direct to > the battery via an on/off thermal switch (part no 0401) and use > the EWP as a > booster pump. > > Both the existing belt driven mechanical pump and the EWP will > pump through > each other when running alone and they will boost each other when > running at > the same time. In fact, when running together they will pump more than the > sum of the two, pumping alone. > > You set the temp switch to the temp below which you want the > engine to run. > If the temp goes above that set temp, the EWP will turn on and > run until the > engine temp is 4 degrees C cooler and switch off. > > When you turn off a hot engine, the heat in the exhaust manifold passes to > the block and the engine temp actually increases after you turn off the > engine. If the head is alloy and the block iron, they will expand at > different rates and the head will tend to twist to accommodate the > difference, then the head gasket will be damaged. > > Being wired direct to the battery, when you turn off a hot engine, the EWP > will run and wash out heat soak until the engine temp reaches the set temp > less 4c. After the EWP turns off, the heat may still transfer and the EWP > will turn on for another short period. The EWP may run for about 4 minutes > all up and at 6 amps there will be very little drain on the battery. > > This will eliminate heat soak and the engine damage associated with it. > > > MOUNT THE EWP IN THE LOWER RADIATOR HOSE IS BEST > > > Does it provide impetus, or will it cap off at a certain limit (or worse, > overspeed?). That could make putting them in series a bad idea. I AM NOT > SURE JUST EXACTLY WHAT YOUR APPLICATION IS SO IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO > COMMENT ON THIS. > > > Regards, > > Richard Davies > Managing Director > Davies, Craig Pty. Ltd. > > PLEASE NOTE : WE HAVE MOVED TO > > 77 TARAS AVENUE, BOX 363 > ALTONA NORTH, VICTORIA , 3025 > AUSTRALIA > > TEL: +61 (0) 3 9369 1234 FAX 9369 3456 > > WEB page www.daviescraig.com.au > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html