X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] (51%) URL: contains host with port number (-49%) URL: weird port adjustment Return-Path: Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2042690 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 May 2007 21:33:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.69; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([65.8.11.154]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070514013318.TCUT5709.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 21:33:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.50] (really [65.8.11.154]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070514013317.XGVH8506.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.50]> for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 21:33:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <45C672D4-3150-4341-8F33-CEA28BC7E1D7@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Frustrating Sunday Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:34:07 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Thanks For the support Mark :) I've been in the same situation before. Maybe this time i'll get out of it againn? Buly On May 13, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Mark Steitle wrote: > Buly, > I can relate to your situation. I just got my EC-2 back from > getting the snubber upgrade and was hoping for a trouble-free > start. But alas, it was not to be. I've been on the phone with > Tracy so much this weekend that Laura has started answering the > telephone with "Hello Mark". ;-) > > First thing I did wrong was I broke the cardinal rule for airplane > trouble-shooting. I changed more than one thing at a time. I > switched from the old style CAS to the Renesis style. I had all > the parts just sitting on the shelf and thought that while the EC-2 > was at RWS getting the snubber upgrade I could go ahead and have it > converted over to the newer CAS. So now I'm not sure which way to > go with my trouble-shooting efforts. > > Before the upgrade, it would run great in the upper rpm ranges, but > not down low (unless dropping the fuel pressure into the teens). > Now it is just the opposite (it idles and runs great up to around > 2800 rpm, then it starts running really rough and mis-firing). > Tracy has been patiently helping me to systematically diagnose the > symptoms. By following Tracy's suggestions, it now runs great up > to about 4200 rpm, then begins running rough as a cob. I still > have some things to try (as suggested by Tracy), but I need some > resistors and Rat Shack was closed, so I called it quits and headed > home. I'll pick up where I left off next weekend. > > So, patience my friend. Tracy assured me that he will be > monitoring his email. He never promised to answer, just > monirtor. ;-) > > Mark S. > Austin, TX > > > On 5/13/07, Bulent Aliev wrote: This > morning I was all primed up to fire my newly updated EC/EM. > Pulled the plane out got all set up and hit the primer button: > Silence? Tried starting: Nothing. > Pushed it back in the hangar and started trouble shooting. > Fuel pressure: Yes > Power to all 4 injectors: Yes > Grounded one at the time all 4 wires from the EC2 plug and all 4 > injectors did "click" > Checked the injector return lines: they are grounded as they should > be. > Called Tracy and he suggested testing Mode 8 spark plugs: worked fine > The EM2 is flashing 0/NOP where the RPM should be? > Since Tracy is leaving for 3 weeks on Tuesday, I'll have time to > follow up on ideas from all, incl. Tracy :) > When John Slade was here, we used to swap EC boards to make sure it > is not our fault. Now he's gone to CT. > > BTW when you are testing the engine ignition in MODE 8 with the spark > plugs on the engine, make sure there is no one around the prop. My > engine fired momentary two times without the starter being engaged, > injectors off and fuel pumps off. Any fuel fumes inside will ignite > if you hit the Save button in Mode 8 > > Finally at 7 PM I felt in a dead end, shut the hangar and headed > home. Feel like where I was 2 years ago. > > Bulent "Buly" Aliev > FXE Ft lauderdale, FL > http://tinyurl.com/dcy36 > > > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/ > flyrotary/List.html >