X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2040127 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 May 2007 15:32:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-103-061.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.103.61]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l4CJVa4R012654 for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 15:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000e01c794cc$5fa904a0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 question Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 15:33:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine I truly appreciate all the information/experience with Tant capacitors. I think that may explain why I have had two boards "burn up". In one case the Voltage Regulator was fried to a crisp and charred the surrounding PC board - so you know it got hot. In another case, I smelled the "Smoke" before it came out and found the VR shearing hot to the touch. I had never used Tant capacitors before and I plan on going back to ceramic. Thanks again, guys Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 question > Ed Anderson wrote: >> Geeze, Jim. Here I've been using tantalum capacitors in my circuit >> boards. Are these failure modes spontaneous or are they triggered by >> something like over voltage, over temp, etc. I guess I'm a bit surprised >> at the violence of their demise - I would think something like that would >> have curtailed their use in electronic circuits. >> >> > I've had the same experience, Ed. > > In my case, I worked as a QA tester. I stood at the end of an assembly > line, and tested the circuit boards on a bed-of-nails test set. One > particular board used cheap tatalums, and when the vacuum sucked the board > and power went to the nails, a random cap would pop, blow fire a foot high > and stink to high heaven. I was second shift, and management wouldn't > believe what I was telling them until they started testing the same boards > on first shift 8*) THEN THEY BELIEVED, as they were shaking the poo out > of their underwear. > > The test engineer implemented a partial fix by ramping the voltage up much > slower. The initial charge inrush was responsible for finding many of the > cheaper caps. Or so he said. It didn't cure the problem completely, but > it did alleviate it some. > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html