X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] (67%) URL: contains host with port number (33%) BODY: contains stock spam words Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 1961162 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Apr 2007 17:24:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-103-061.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.103.61]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l31LNhUn013091 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2007 17:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c774a4$0f89dbe0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 17:23:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C77482.881FE2B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C77482.881FE2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, I understand - boy, if I could corner the market on the oval = connectors {:>) yes, well when the preferred method is not readily = available then improvisation is the name of the game. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:31 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start I agree that the best answer is to use a connector that fits. = Unfortunately in this case, Bob had the oval type injectors that no one = seems to be able to buy connectors for. We had to substitute some old = injectors (square connector type) I had laying around to get the engine = running. It cranked in less than a second after doing that though. Soldering wires to the terminals then potting the connector cavity = (with EPOXY!) is just better that trying to modify the square connector = and trying to force it to fit. I haven't done it on injectors but have = done it on coils with good success.=20 As always, details are everything. One builder did this then potted = the cavity with RTV. The engine failed to start a few months later = after the acetic acid formed when the RTV cured corroded all the = connections. Tracy (Installing Bluemountain G4 : ) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob Tilley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start Ed, This was Tracy's recommendation, then pot them into the injector = with =20 epoxy. I just happen to have some around here someplace. I will not = =20 be able to use the connectors that came with the engine anymore, = they =20 have given up the ghost. Bob On Mar 5, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: > Boy, that is one I had not heard of, Bob. Poor injector = connector, =20 > but glad to hear you have it running. No certain I understood you = =20 > properly, but if you really mean soldering the wires to the =20 > injectors, I would not recommend that. If you mean soldering the = > wires to the electrical socket terminals then that's OK. > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Tilley" = > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:12 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] First Start -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C77482.881FE2B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, I understand - boy, if I could = corner the=20 market on the oval connectors {:>)   yes, well when the = preferred=20 method is not readily available then improvisation is the name of the=20 game.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tracy = Crook
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 = 10:31=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First=20 Start

I agree that the best answer is to use a connector that = fits. =20 Unfortunately in this case, Bob had the oval type injectors that no = one seems=20 to be able to buy connectors for.  We had to substitute some old=20 injectors (square connector type) I had laying around to get the = engine=20 running.  It cranked in less than a second after doing that = though.
 
 Soldering wires to the terminals then potting the=20 connector cavity (with EPOXY!) is just better that trying to = modify=20 the square connector and trying to force it to fit.  I haven't = done it on=20 injectors but have done it on coils with good success. 
 
  As always, details are everything.  One builder did = this then=20 potted the cavity with RTV.  The engine failed to start a few = months=20 later after the acetic acid formed when the RTV cured corroded all the = connections.
 
Tracy  (Installing Bluemountain G4 : )
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Tilley
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 = 9:46=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = First=20 Start

Ed,

This was Tracy's recommendation, then pot = them=20 into the injector with 
epoxy.  I just happen to have = some=20 around here someplace. I will not 
be able to use the = connectors=20 that came with the engine anymore, they 
have given up the=20 ghost.

Bob


On Mar 5, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Ed Anderson = wrote:

> Boy, that is one I had not heard of, Bob.  = Poor=20 injector connector, 
> but glad to hear you have it=20 running.  No certain I understood you 
> properly, = but if=20 you really mean soldering the wires to the 
> injectors, = I would=20 not recommend that.  If you mean soldering the 
> = wires to=20 the electrical socket terminals then that's OK.
>
> = Ed
>=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Tilley" <btilley@mchsi.com>
> = To:=20 "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>=20 Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:12 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] = First=20 Start


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