X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] (67%) URL: contains host with port number (33%) HEADERS: mail has MS Outlook properties but missing "Outlook" in "X-Mailer" Headers Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 1960697 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:32:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.175; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.250.90]) by bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Sun, 1 Apr 2007 07:31:45 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Apr 2007 07:31:44 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 4.171.174.65 by BAY115-DAV18.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:31:43 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.171.174.65] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 10:31:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01C77448.ED56E230" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.50.0034.2000 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 10:31:37 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2007 14:31:44.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[790F7500:01C7746A] Return-Path: lors01@msn.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C77448.ED56E230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree that the best answer is to use a connector that fits. = Unfortunately in this case, Bob had the oval type injectors that no one = seems to be able to buy connectors for. We had to substitute some old = injectors (square connector type) I had laying around to get the engine = running. It cranked in less than a second after doing that though. Soldering wires to the terminals then potting the connector cavity = (with EPOXY!) is just better that trying to modify the square connector = and trying to force it to fit. I haven't done it on injectors but have = done it on coils with good success.=20 As always, details are everything. One builder did this then potted = the cavity with RTV. The engine failed to start a few months later = after the acetic acid formed when the RTV cured corroded all the = connections. Tracy (Installing Bluemountain G4 : ) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob Tilley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First Start Ed, This was Tracy's recommendation, then pot them into the injector with = epoxy. I just happen to have some around here someplace. I will not =20 be able to use the connectors that came with the engine anymore, they = have given up the ghost. Bob On Mar 5, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: > Boy, that is one I had not heard of, Bob. Poor injector connector, = > but glad to hear you have it running. No certain I understood you =20 > properly, but if you really mean soldering the wires to the =20 > injectors, I would not recommend that. If you mean soldering the =20 > wires to the electrical socket terminals then that's OK. > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Tilley" = > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" = > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:12 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] First Start -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C77448.ED56E230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree that the best answer is to use a connector that fits.  = Unfortunately in this case, Bob had the oval type injectors that no one = seems to=20 be able to buy connectors for.  We had to substitute some old = injectors=20 (square connector type) I had laying around to get the engine = running.  It=20 cranked in less than a second after doing that though.
 
 Soldering wires to the terminals then potting the=20 connector cavity (with EPOXY!) is just better that trying to = modify=20 the square connector and trying to force it to fit.  I haven't done = it on=20 injectors but have done it on coils with good success. 
 
  As always, details are everything.  One builder did = this then=20 potted the cavity with RTV.  The engine failed to start a few = months later=20 after the acetic acid formed when the RTV cured corroded all the=20 connections.
 
Tracy  (Installing Bluemountain G4 : )
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Tilley
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 = 9:46=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First=20 Start

Ed,

This was Tracy's recommendation, then pot = them into=20 the injector with 
epoxy.  I just happen to have some = around=20 here someplace. I will not 
be able to use the connectors = that came=20 with the engine anymore, they 
have given up the=20 ghost.

Bob


On Mar 5, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Ed Anderson=20 wrote:

> Boy, that is one I had not heard of, Bob.  = Poor=20 injector connector, 
> but glad to hear you have it = running. =20 No certain I understood you 
> properly, but if you really = mean=20 soldering the wires to the 
> injectors, I would not = recommend=20 that.  If you mean soldering the 
> wires to the = electrical=20 socket terminals then that's OK.
>
> Ed
> ----- = Original=20 Message ----- From: "Bob Tilley" <btilley@mchsi.com>
> = To: "Rotary=20 motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>=20 Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:12 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] = First=20 Start


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