X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.193] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTPS id 1863258 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:57:04 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.193; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d211-31-118-94.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.31.118.94]) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id l1Q8tQdh015778 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:55:32 +1100 Message-ID: <000d01c75983$e103d0e0$5e761fd3@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Last Screen Display Photos Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:55:20 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C759D7.A9C3CA50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0657-0, 12/12/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C759D7.A9C3CA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed,=20 I used 3mm, but it thinned out a fair bit over a large area. I saw some = small parts done and saw not as much thinning. I also used some 4.5mm = for some brackets i.e. heat and bend. I wouldn't recommend the thicker = stuff for what your doing the 3mm should be more than enough.. George ( down under) Thanks, George I may end up trying that. Sounds like the old vacuum molding technique = - generally good for material up to around 1/8" thick as best I recall. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Lendich=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:57 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Last Screen Display Photos Ed, I just made some motorbike panniers out of thermoplastic (ABS). I = had to make my own moulds (have plenty of experience), took them to the = factory- they heat the sheet of plastic drop it on the moulds and suck = it down. You have to cut them free from the sheet, but very cheap to = make things. George (down under) You have a good point. Dave. I wanted to occupy the smallest amount of instrument space = consistent with a readable display. Until the new OLED type display = became available, I just was not happy about the quality. The old one = was readable under most lighten and viewing conditions but not all. = This one is much, much better. At the moment, I had planned to package it for the 2 1/4" dia = standard instrument hole. The trouble is I have found no source of = reasonably priced instrument cases. I did find a few metal ones with = minor flaws and even those were $25 apiece on sale. I know somebody much make them - plastic would undoubtedly be = cheaper. But, the instrument can be mounted in a black plastic box as = far as that goes. I scratch my head a bit more over this issue. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Leonard=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:33 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Last Screen Display Photos You know, Ed, Maybe you should not worry about the packaging so = much. You could leave that up to the builder as most of us are going to = be installing it in our own unique way. It could be mounted right onto = the instrument panel, or given a simple case made of aluminum or = fiberglass.=20 Dave Leonard =20 On 2/24/07, Ed Anderson wrote:=20 Last photos - MVC-018F shows the EC2 fuel map that is = currently loaded in my aircraft. There are now two segments a <3000rpm = and >3000 rpm represented here by the red and blue graphs respectively. = The screen shows where you have manually placed a cursor = (white bar) and gives the Map reading at that location (white) as well = as the value to the left(red) and right(blue) digits. There is a little = green circle (hard to see in the photo but not in real life) that = represents the fuel map area the engine is operating at the moment.=20 And you can select an expanded scale screen to show either the = low (red) Map or high (blue) map, the latter of which is shown here. There are a number of other screens mainly for calibration = that are not show. You can calibrate the gadget to reflect your own = injection system, change it for larger/different injectors as well as = adjust the O2 sensor display sensitive.=20 So See Dave, I have been busy working of the gadget of your = interest{:>) Now, working hard to have one for Sun and Fun. The = electronic/programming/board making part - I like. Its the packaging = that drives me batty - should be so simple but turns out in some ways = to be the hardest part.=20 Ed The message is ready to be sent with the following file or = link attachments: MVC-019F.JPG MVC-020F.JPG MVC-018F.JPG Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may = prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check = your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.=20 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY My websites at: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C759D7.A9C3CA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Ed,
I used 3mm, but it thinned out a fair = bit over a=20 large area. I saw some small parts done and saw not as much thinning. I = also=20 used some 4.5mm for some brackets i.e. heat and bend. I wouldn't = recommend the=20 thicker stuff for what your doing the 3mm should be more than=20 enough..
George ( down under)
Thanks, George
 
I may end up trying that. Sounds like the = old=20 vacuum molding technique - generally good for material up to around = 1/8" thick=20 as best I recall.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 George Lendich
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, February 25, = 2007 3:57=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Last = Screen=20 Display Photos

Ed,
I just made some motorbike panniers = out of=20 thermoplastic (ABS). I had to make my own moulds (have plenty of=20 experience), took them to the factory- they heat the sheet of = plastic drop=20 it on the moulds and suck it down. You have to cut them free from = the sheet,=20 but very cheap to make things.
George (down under)
You have a good point. Dave.
 
I wanted to occupy the smallest amount of = instrument=20 space consistent with a readable display.  Until the new OLED = type=20 display became available, I just was not happy about the = quality. =20 The old one was readable under most lighten and viewing conditions = but not=20 all.  This one is much, much better.
 
At the moment, I had planned to package it = for the 2=20 1/4" dia standard instrument hole.  The trouble is I have = found no=20 source of reasonably priced instrument cases.  I did find a = few metal=20 ones with minor flaws and even those were $25 apiece on = sale.
 
I know somebody much make them - plastic = would=20 undoubtedly be cheaper.  But, the instrument can be mounted = in a=20 black plastic box as far as that goes.
 
I scratch my head a bit more over this=20 issue.
 
Ed
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 David=20 Leonard
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, February = 25, 2007=20 1:33 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Last=20 Screen Display Photos

You know, Ed, Maybe you should not worry about the = packaging so=20 much.  You could leave that up to the builder as most of us = are=20 going to be installing it in our own unique way.  It could = be=20 mounted right onto the instrument panel, or given a simple case = made of=20 aluminum or fiberglass.
 
Dave Leonard

 
On 2/24/07, Ed=20 Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t;=20 wrote:=20
Last photos - MVC-018F shows the EC2 = fuel map=20 that is currently loaded in my aircraft.  There are now = two=20 segments a <3000rpm and >3000 rpm represented here by = the red=20 and blue graphs respectively. 
 
The screen shows where you have = manually placed=20 a cursor (white bar) and gives the Map reading at that = location=20 (white) as well as the value to the left(red) and = right(blue)=20 digits.  There is a little green circle (hard to see in = the photo=20 but not in real life) that represents the fuel map area the = engine is=20 operating at the moment.
 
And you can select an expanded scale = screen to=20 show either the low (red) Map or high (blue) map, the latter = of which=20 is shown here.
 
There are a number of other screens = mainly for=20 calibration that are not show.  You can calibrate the = gadget to=20 reflect your own injection system, change it for = larger/different=20 injectors as well as adjust the O2 sensor display sensitive.=20
 
So See Dave, I have been busy working = of the=20 gadget of your interest{:>)  Now, working hard to have = one for=20 Sun and Fun.  The electronic/programming/board making = part - I=20 like.  Its the packaging that drives me batty - should be = so=20 simple but turns out  in some ways to be the hardest = part.=20
 
Ed
 
 
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