X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Received: from web39101.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.86.252] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.5) with SMTP id 1782793 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:27:52 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.191.86.252; envelope-from=roundrocktom@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 69613 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2007 15:27:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=5ZQoMHwqlhDVZC0pKfO1T9h2vStD7u8zu67b0ioJDBWBCOssUzIDvv8rsKpb4EElFmTKb/jd9sje1j0H7454hdV3DlvWR9Jtg2jDuIh+OjeTmOKNHhxRxjRigy//1MzVLbwR3Ntvhm3GwXkjza0xZWoJZLO1Vk5tyNjEkF0G2e8=; X-YMail-OSG: STkdyIMVM1nbSUAQ.dHpvv_bM.G2e.buqLpD6aUWKVw2Hc4hqRZSyjn11nx250_Drncn3JYxr6hapyiNsWsv27TGR7hFp0cPTFgS6n8UnqmwHzA- Received: from [216.30.135.34] by web39101.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:27:00 PST Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:27:00 -0800 (PST) From: thomas walter Subject: [FlyRotary] fuel injectors To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1817682644-1169479620=:69514" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <508190.69514.qm@web39101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1817682644-1169479620=:69514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John, How often to you plan on using the carb (to confirm everything is working OK?). An issue I ran into was the needle and seats would gum up with left over fuel, and no flow to clean them off. Heat of the engine would cause the fuel bowls to varnish up. In my case, as this odd ball hybrid was on a Datsun, it was simple to pull off to the side of the road. Remove the four float bowl screws on a SU, turn on the electric low pressure pump, and wiggle the needle and seat to get the fuel flowing once again. Button everything up, and on my way again. You can see my concern about the aircraft. If you "test" with the carb, then blow everything out, clean out the bowl... you'll be ready with it as an emergency backup. If you "test" before every flight you'll build up the varnish. So in theory sounded great, but I never really got it to work as planned. Oh on TIG welding... I still have my TIG (old Hobart with some insane duty cycle that means I tire out long before the welder), but have had fun with oxy acetylene welding aluminum. Well at least with the correct goggles I have a hint of what I am doing. Alas, making more of mess than anything... just need hours to practice. Goggles were from http://www.tinmantech.com/ -- aka Kent White, who is usually doing amazing metal work demos at Oshkosh. Tom Walter From: John Downing To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:06 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] fuel injectors Ed, Rusty; Thankyou for the prompt reply. Bob White has done the wiring harness for the high impedance injectors. So I have the right ones. As for the Throttle body, I'm going with Lynn's idea of the 48 Weber, which can be fueled if something happens to the fuel injection. Looking at the EC-2 manual, I may have to learn to read before I can start this thing. It may be overkill, but I'm going on 71 and that is the way I see it. I hope to have the system together by weeks end if the welder is available to install the bosses for the injectors in the intake manifold. My 45 year old TIG welder isn't up to the fine work. I'll send along some pictures when I get it all plumbed up. JohnD --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. --0-1817682644-1169479620=:69514 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
John,
 
How often to you plan on using the carb (to confirm everything is working OK?).
 
An issue I ran into was the needle and seats would gum up with left over fuel, and no flow to clean them off. Heat of the engine would cause the fuel bowls to varnish up.
 
In my case, as this odd ball hybrid was on a Datsun, it was simple to pull off to the side of the road. Remove the four float bowl screws on a SU, turn on the electric low pressure pump, and wiggle the needle and seat to get the fuel flowing once again. Button everything up, and on my way again.  You can see my concern about the aircraft.
 
If you "test" with the carb, then blow everything out, clean out the bowl... you'll be ready with it as an emergency backup.   If you "test" before every flight you'll build up the varnish.
 
So in theory sounded great, but I never really got it to work as planned. 
 
Oh on TIG welding... I still have my TIG (old Hobart with some insane duty cycle that means I tire out long before the welder), but have had fun with oxy acetylene welding aluminum. Well at least with the correct goggles I have a hint of what I am doing.  Alas, making more of  mess than anything... just need hours to practice. Goggles were from http://www.tinmantech.com/  -- aka Kent White, who is usually doing amazing metal work demos at Oshkosh.
 
Tom Walter
 
From: John Downing
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] fuel injectors

Ed, Rusty;  Thankyou for the prompt reply.  Bob White has done the wiring harness for the high impedance injectors.  So I have the right ones.  As for the Throttle body, I'm going with Lynn's idea of the 48 Weber, which can be fueled if something happens to the fuel injection.  Looking at the EC-2 manual, I may have to learn to read before I can start this thing.  It may be overkill, but I'm going on 71 and that is the way I see it.  I hope to have the system together by weeks end if the welder is available to install the bosses for the injectors in the intake manifold.  My 45 year old TIG welder isn't up to the fine work.  I'll send along some pictures when I get it all plumbed up.  JohnD
 


 


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