X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Received: from m12.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.5) with SMTP id 1781562 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:41:51 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.30.75; envelope-from=alwick@juno.com Received: from m12.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m12.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABC5HZRAA52VC5J for (sender ); Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:40:48 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: L941HVjjYzDhN3itp//mkKEVWAanCzY/p+0Or1L1rUt2YDok4vHbEw== Received: (from alwick@juno.com) by m12.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id MCMYPRV6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:40:15 PST To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:28:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: alcohol in fuel Message-ID: <20070121.134009.2804.1.alwick@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.49 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_2960.08be.15db X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,9-13,15-27,31-37,39,41-42,43-32767 From: al p wick X-ContentStamp: 12:6:3460483693 X-MAIL-INFO:41b3b347e77b670a7f2fbf4702bf2b9aae0f27bf1ec3f34fe71e270f1e2e1eebce9ba39eb38e47ee476ee7d72b9f03d70a7b439b5fea1b471f9b2bfb5a3f5a1fcf1e433fbecb373bbe X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m12.lax.untd.com|alwick@juno.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_2960.08be.15db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The ratio info I got from both Gary Hunter and personal experience. In general, ratios near 50/50 are not as chemical resistant. But I know nothing about EZ poxy directly. -al On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:18:16 -0800 "Al Gietzen" writes: Al W wrote: After flying for six years, finally removed and disassembled my glass and foam header tank. During those six years I periodically used ethanol fuel and whatever. Always used auto fuel. No evidence of degradation of any component....soft aluminum, foam, epoxy. All looks perfect. That’s good news. Just a reminder, all epoxy that is fuel exposed must be high ratio type. Like 4 to 1. 50/50 ratio epoxies can NOT handle “fuel” over time. That’s bad news. Should I conclude from this that EZ-poxy (44-56 by weight) will NOT handle fuel with ethanol? I assume when you say “fuel” you mean fuel with ethanol, since experience has shown that EZ-poxy has handled auto fuel for periods of 15 years in some EZs. Al G -al wick Cozy IV powered by Turbo Subaru 3.0R with variable valve lift and cam timing. Artificial intelligence in cockpit, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Oregon Glass panel design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html ----__JNP_000_2960.08be.15db Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The ratio info I got from both Gary Hunter and personal experience. In= =20 general, ratios near 50/50 are not as chemical resistant. But I know = nothing=20 about EZ poxy directly.

-al

On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:18:16 -0800 "Al Gietzen" <ALVentures@cox.net> writes:

Al W=20 wrote:

After flying for six years, finally removed and= =20 disassembled my glass and

foam header tank. During those six years I=20 periodically used ethanol fuel

and whatever. Always used auto fuel. No = evidence=20 of degradation of any

component....soft aluminum, foam, epoxy. All = looks=20 perfect.

That’s= good=20 news.

Just a reminder, all epoxy that is fuel exposed= must=20 be high ratio type.

Like 4 to 1. 50/50 ratio epoxies = can NOT=20 handle “fuel” over time.

That’s= bad=20 news. Should I conclude from this that EZ-poxy (44-56 by weight) = will=20 NOT handle fuel with ethanol? I assume when you say “fuel&#= 8221; you mean fuel=20 with ethanol, since experience has shown that EZ-poxy has handled auto = fuel=20 for periods of 15 years in some EZs.

Al=20 G

-al wick
Cozy IV powered by Turbo = Subaru=20 3.0R with variable valve lift and cam timing.
Artificial intelligence = in=20 cockpit, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Oregon
Glass panel design, = Subaru=20 install, Prop construct, Risk assessment=20 info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
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