Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.73] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2624451 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 22:35:23 -0400 Received: from rad ([68.212.15.208]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031005023523.OQIQ1843.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@rad> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:35:23 -0400 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "Flyrotary List" Subject: max boost with wastegate open Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 21:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: <017e01c38ae9$51ef0da0$0201a8c0@rad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017F_01C38ABF.691905A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017F_01C38ABF.691905A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, =20 Here's the log from today's flight. Things are still going in the right direction performance-wise, but I've got a ways to go. =20 Rusty (must port wastegate...) =20 =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------ Climbed out at 5 psi, and it still seems like the best climb rate is 100 mph. I saw about 2100 fpm on the anywhere map, which is the same as my buddy=92s 160 HP RV-3. This confirms my belief that it takes about 5 = psi to break even. I got a few whiffs of fuel, but the tanks were full, and I = know that my RV-8 used to do that too. =20 =20 Climbed to 10,000 feet, and shoved the throttle to the max. Boost = stopped building at about 9.5psi, but the power kept coming on as the throttle = was opened further. I=92m absolutely convinced that 5 psi will be much = stronger when I can get the wastegate opened up more, and that=92s next week=92s = project. =20 Here are the speeds with 16 degrees of pitch on the prop: =20 Boost (over ambient) / MAP / RPM / MPH Climb 5 psi / 38=94 / 5400 / 100 (2100 fpm) 5 psi / 38=94 / 5600 / 120 (1600 fpm) =20 Cruise at 10,000 ft 5 psi / 30=94 / 6100 / 140 7 psi / 34=94 / / 145 =20 I=92m going to leave the prop here for a while. I=92m sure I=92ll want = to increase the pitch a bit more when I get the wastegate working, and get = rid of the cowl drag. =20 Did some stalls at about 10,000 ft, and there were no surprises, other = than the high numbers. I=92ve gotta get this ASI checked, either with the = GPS, or with my formation buddy. The stall comes with decent warning- much more than an RV-6, and less than an RV-8. =20 No flaps, stall at 70 mph indicated First notch of flaps (about 18 degrees), stall at 65 mph indicated Full flaps (28 degrees), stall at 63 mph indicated. =20 =20 After the flight, I found that the belly, and tailwheel were pretty = oily. I had recently re-oriented the oil vent line, and it looks like all the = oil came from there. I must have managed to get it in the suction area = behind the bottom edge of the cowl. I added a large diameter clear hose, with = a drain valve at the bottom. This is extended up into the cowl about = 18=94, then has the smaller diameter vent line stuck inside. This is not an airtight fit, so the vent still works, but there can be no suction. I = can also monitor how much oil gets out, and drain it as needed. =20 =20 Finally, I covered about a third of the radiator, to simulate the = smaller rad that I intend to order. This leaves me with a core that=92s 17 = 1/8=94 wide, and 17 =BE=94 tall. It=92s 2.25=94 thick, for a total volume of 684 cu = in. I=92ll see how this works tomorrow.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_017F_01C38ABF.691905A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Greetings,

 

Here's the log = from=20 today's flight.  Things are still going in the right direction=20 performance-wise, but I've got a ways to go.

 

Rusty (must port=20 wastegate...)

 

   

 

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Climbed out at 5 psi, and it still seems like = the best=20 climb rate is 100 mph.  I = saw about=20 2100 fpm on the anywhere map, which is the same as my buddy’s 160 = HP RV-3.  This confirms my belief that = it takes=20 about 5 psi to break even.  = I got a=20 few whiffs of fuel, but the tanks were full, and I know that my RV-8 = used to do=20 that too.  =

 

Climbed to 10,000 feet, and shoved the throttle = to the=20 max.  Boost stopped = building at=20 about 9.5psi, but the power kept coming on as the throttle was opened=20 further.  I’m = absolutely convinced=20 that 5 psi will be much stronger when I can get the wastegate opened up = more,=20 and that’s next week’s project. =20

 

Here are the speeds with 16=20 degrees of pitch on the prop:

 

Boost (over ambient) / MAP / RPM / MPH

Climb

5 psi / 38” / 5400 / 100 =20 (2100 fpm)

5 psi / 38” / 5600 / 120  (1600 fpm)

 

Cruise at 10,000 ft

5 psi / 30” / 6100 / 140

7 psi / 34” /         =20 / 145

 

I’m going to leave the prop here for a while.  I’m sure I’ll want = to increase the pitch=20 a bit more when I get the wastegate working, and get rid of the cowl=20 drag.

 

Did some stalls at about 10,000 = ft, and=20 there were no surprises, other than the high numbers.  I’ve gotta get this ASI = checked, either=20 with the GPS, or with my formation buddy.  The stall=20 comes with decent warning- much more than an RV-6, and less than an=20 RV-8.

 

No flaps, stall at 70 mph indicated

First notch of flaps (about 18 degrees), stall at 65 mph=20 indicated

Full flaps (28 degrees), stall at 63 mph = indicated. 

 

After the flight, I found that the belly, and = tailwheel=20 were pretty oily.  I had = recently=20 re-oriented the oil vent line, and it looks like all the oil came from=20 there.  I must have = managed to get=20 it in the suction area behind the bottom edge of the cowl.  I added a large diameter clear = hose,=20 with a drain valve at the bottom. =20 This is extended up into the cowl about 18”, then has the = smaller=20 diameter vent line stuck inside.  = This is not an airtight fit, so the vent still works, but there = can be no=20 suction.  I can also = monitor how=20 much oil gets out, and drain it as needed. =20

 

Finally,=20 I covered about a third of the radiator, to simulate the smaller rad = that I=20 intend to order.  This = leaves me=20 with a core that’s 17 1/8” wide, and 17 =BE” = tall.  It’s 2.25” thick, = for a total volume of=20 684 cu in.  I’ll see = how this works=20 tomorrow.
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