Return-Path: Received: from fed1mtao01.cox.net ([68.6.19.244] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2624286 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:24:37 -0400 Received: from smtp.west.cox.net ([172.18.180.57]) by fed1mtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20031004232433.WELJ2935.fed1mtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:24:33 -0400 From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] overvoltage (was: alternator choice?) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:24:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=____1065309874244_YhRz.VVBP-" Message-Id: <20031004232433.WELJ2935.fed1mtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=____1065309874244_YhRz.VVBP- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Mark wrote: > I'm not an expert in electronics. I was following the advice of Bob > Nuckols on the Aero-electric connection. There are failure modes with > internal regulators such as a "run-away" that can't be stopped by shutting > off the field current. This possibility necessitates using over-voltage > protection at a very minimum. The problem comes with how to hook OVP up to > an internally regulated alternator. There's a schematic on the > Aero-electric Connection at > http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/bleadov.pdf that shows how to do > that. I acknowledge that Bob Nuckols is far more knowlegeable about things electronic that I am, but that schematic sure seems like the hard way to implement what is basically a "crowbar" circuit. I've attached a quick-and-dirty MSpaint drawing of a suitable circuit to isolate the alternator from the battery and load (assume that the load is taken from the positive pole of the battery on this drawing - I forgot to put it on (told you it was quick-&-dirty)). The SCR needs to be rated for more amps than the maximum normal output of the alternator. The Zener only needs to pass enough current to trip the SCR; I chose 15V assuming that normal max-charge is 14.5V pick a higher voltage, if your system requires. The resistor is to limit current flow through the zener to less than its rating - five ohm would probably work fine, it won't be conducting very long anyway. The circuit breaker could be an automatic resetting (after a cool-off period) but I don't recommend it. If the alternator went ballistic in the air, I'd want it to *stay* off until I had a chance to check it out on the ground. 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