X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from web50701.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.99] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.4) with SMTP id 1723613 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:02:06 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.190.38.99; envelope-from=fpbjr2001@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 58787 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Dec 2006 15:00:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=v6OzFRQIy/lw7FQRec3+bpm6Hgwt7Pqxv4qGa2OF/w1kEs16ZMD3bqTxeIyyCpRCxiGHOhWSNXA+yWouI9rVXr1FkdYukGYhBNnSUDNMv7gHquXYGFggaNZlx9K+1B+JtCFudw5Q0bwCR3C7MQYfSrjE1eYYMDTPG9UhD+Vxses=; X-YMail-OSG: oGFJe.8VM1mshALmdMvdzNhii.GAGmzgGB87dDzCD7g0a9DmCO7SFkfQ_SDT.bkClCBG0PW_mp8zcAl2o16kPo5ZvOnWh_c5d3_r4rnsNRd2fdJBxc3IMs2SBk8A8WrtwwXWS_ONHcu35JQ- Received: from [4.153.53.25] by web50701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:00:38 PST Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 07:00:38 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] 100LL and O2 sensor To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <513485.58010.qm@web50701.mail.yahoo.com> ed lou and i have changed our o2 sensor to a broad band preheated type for two reasons. they last longer with 100LL fuel. because it is preheated it keeps more of the lead off of the sensor. and of coarse you can get an actual air/fuel ratio reading. i do have a question. we tuned our engine and it takes added throttle real smooth but when we pull the throttle the mixture goes crazy. the engine gets erratic of course with the mixture all over the place. any ideas what is going on. we go to the B side of the ECU and things smooth out but the air fuel mixtures are not a lot different. we need a little input. thanks paul brannon N117ES --- Ed Anderson wrote: > While leaded fuel will quickly ruin an O2 sensor for > its intended use in > controlling an automobile's fuel CPU, that is not > true for using it as an > Air/Fuel Indicator. I typically get over 150 hours > with an O2 sensor using > 100LL 99% of the time, before it slowly becomes > unusable for that purpose. I > am on my second O2 sensor and approaching 360 hours > flight time. The sensor > appears to gradually loose its sensitivity and > responsiveness to changing > air/fuel conditions. Now this pertains to the older > (standard) narrow-band > O2 sensor, I have no experience with the newer (more > accurate and more > expensive) broad-band sensor. > > FWIW > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Owen" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:19 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Yet another non-event story > > > Buly, > > Are you using 100LL? Leaded fuel will kill O2 > sensors quickly. > > If you are running leaded fuel save yourself some > wrenching time by changing > the O2 sensor first. > > Jeff Owen > > >During the flight I noticed my mixture bar was > going from lean to > >totally desapearing. Turning the knob to full rich > was not enough. So > >I have to do some more tuning. > >Bulent "Buly" Aliev > >FXE Ft lauderdale, FL > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com