X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Received: from [209.87.238.133] (HELO intldata.ca) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 1621317 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:24:44 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.87.238.133; envelope-from=jwhaley@intldata.ca Received: from jwhaley ([209.87.238.175]) by intldata.ca (intldata.ca) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50000366097.msg for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:16:46 -0500 From: "Jeff Whaley" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Re: EAA 782 meeting Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:16:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C713C9.614B7D80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AccT8cBwBroirodSQw2kQa0E/CW+yAAAOQrA X-Spam-Processed: intldata.ca, Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:16:46 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 209.87.238.175 X-Return-Path: jwhaley@intldata.ca X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Reply-To: jwhaley@intldata.ca Message-ID: X-MDAV-Processed: intldata.ca, Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:16:49 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C713C9.614B7D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No comment about which gear set is better, but we know the Ford set has many hundreds or thousands of flight-proven hours. One concern I have is if the engine fails there is nothing in the design of any gear box and a Rotary engine to stop or reduce propeller wind milling. Has anyone experienced and engine out and have any testimonies as to what happens? Jeff Whaley (doing cowlings, sending units, oil cooler mount, etc.) _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of hoursaway1@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:05 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EAA 782 meeting My point with regards to the planetary gearsets was, any part will fail if given a cause, remove the cause and fly happy, thanks, David (RWS; EC2,EM2, RD-1B= planetary gearset driven) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "kevin lane" > I brought this up because I was interested in further discussion. as with > all the conversion aspects, the working environment for aircraft is always > different from the one the part was designed for. for instance, I would > imagine that the truck would deliver quick reversals of torque and operate > typically at a much lesser rpm. that must make some difference. I assumed > that someone else with relevant background experience might also challenge > some of these statements. when I was having Lycoming cylinder problems I > spoke with one shop that just ranted about ECI cylinders, they were crap > etc.... and he would swap me for 2nd life lycomings. I found other shops > that didn't feel that way and had mine welded (they on ly had 800 hrs on > them). since then I dodged the bullet on the ECI recall because mine were > an earlier forging, but, it shows there are many sides to every story, like > the blind men and the elephant. kevin (white cane in hand!) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Gietzen" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:52 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EAA 782 meeting > > > Ken talked about a friend who is a top > authority on transmissions and his love of ford t-6 gear systems, because > they keep him well employed. he said this friend proceeded to show him a 55 > > gallon barrel of broken parts, not a Chevy or dodge part in there, all ford. > > ------------- > > Gee; thanks. Really ups my confidence flying a 20B with a Ford C-6 > planetary reduction:). & gt; > Al > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ __________ NOD32 1889 (20061129) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C713C9.614B7D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No comment about which gear set is = better, but we know the Ford set has many hundreds or thousands of flight-proven = hours.

One concern I have is if the engine = fails there is nothing in the design of any gear box and a Rotary engine to = stop or reduce propeller wind milling.

Has anyone experienced and engine = out and have any testimonies as to what happens?

Jeff Whaley

(doing cowlings, sending units, oil = cooler mount, etc.)

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of hoursaway1@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, November = 29, 2006 3:05 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = EAA 782 meeting

 

My point with regards to the planetary gearsets was, any part = will fail if given a cause, remove the cause and fly happy, thanks, David (RWS; = EC2,EM2, RD-1B=3D planetary gearset driven)

 

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "kevin lane" <n3773@comcast.net>

> I brought this up because I was interested in further discussion. = as with
> all the conversion aspects, the working environment for aircraft is = always
> different from the one the part was designed for. for instance, I = would
> imagine that the truck would deliver quick reversals of torque and = operate
> typically at a much lesser rpm. that must make some difference. I = assumed
> that someone else with relevant background experience might also = challenge
> some of these statements. when I was having Lycoming cylinder = problems I
> spoke with one shop that just ranted about ECI cylinders, they were = crap
> etc.... and he would swap me for 2nd life lycomings. I found other = shops
> that didn't feel that way and had mine welded (they on ly had 800 = hrs on
> them). since then I dodged the bullet on the ECI recall because = mine were
> an earlier forging, but, it shows there are many sides to every = story, like
> the blind men and the elephant. kevin (white cane in hand!)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al Gietzen"
> To: "Rotary = motors in aircraft"
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 = 7:52 AM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EAA 782 meeting
>
>
> Ken talked about a friend who is a top
> authority on transmissions and his love of ford t-6 gear systems, = because
> they keep him well employed. he said this friend proceeded to show = him a 55
>
> gallon barrel of broken parts, not a Chevy or dodge part in there, = all ford.
>
> -------------
>
> Gee; thanks. Really ups my confidence flying a 20B with a Ford C-6 =
> planetary reduction:).
& gt;
> Al
>
>
> --
> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ =
>
>
> --
> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ =



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