X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ironmaiden.mail.utexas.edu ([128.83.32.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1601681 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:56:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=128.83.32.53; envelope-from=mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu DomainKey-Signature: s=main; d=austin.utexas.edu; c=nofws; q=dns; b=oVZONCxMZB9odw3aIOqSnj9d4HbdiCxiw6sExIbsVEmBCY6STqP7KiI4RSkDkEXhBDY8scI7c31V7fn+6t7wp8lGqFGsBl1y8OlqtDPtSrpXNMQzHZNyCiBdTGGdRQbBRpwTlH3B9DLSml2rpr27LKgMtcqHAxxcBhRFZtfk2i4=; Received: from exb02.austin.utexas.edu (HELO MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu) ([129.116.87.143]) by ironmaiden.mail.utexas.edu with ESMTP; 25 Nov 2006 07:56:16 -0600 Received: from MAIL02.austin.utexas.edu ([129.116.87.144]) by MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:56:15 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C71099.79592BE8" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Z-19 questions Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:56:15 -0600 Message-ID: <5B59870CA143DD408BD6279374B74C8B010C2036@MAIL02.austin.utexas.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <5B59870CA143DD408BD6279374B74C8B010C2036@MAIL02.austin.utexas.edu> Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Z-19 questions Thread-Index: AccPzsRRh/zh8m+5TOWQhjjyaPolcgAyIpHj References: From: "Mark R Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Return-Path: mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2006 13:56:15.0875 (UTC) FILETIME=[798E2D30:01C71099] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71099.79592BE8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bill,=20 Have you checked out Aero-Electric's Z-14 architecture? Dual = alternators, dual batteries. The two PC-680 Odyssey batteries are = independent of each other, but can be connected by flipping a crossover = switch on the panel in the event of an alternator failure. The second = battery automatically kicks in during starting. This is what I did on = my ES and it seems to be working pretty well so far (10 hrs of ground = running, no flight time, yet). =20 =20 One modification I made to the Z-14 design (at the suggestion of Ed = Anderson) was to put all the engine critical items on a separate "always = hot" bus, with breakers. Each fuel pump has its own breaker, leading = and trailing coils have their own as do the primary and secondary = injectors.=20 =20 I also used dual EFI fuel pumps, plumbed in parallel. They feed into = two stainless GM efi filters. The pumps are controlled by a pressure = switch and relay. In other words, they are both switches are on, but = only one pump is running during normal operation. In case of a low = pressure event (pressure sag), the relay turns the second fuel pump on = before you can say "wazzzzup". It also lights an LED on the panel to = tell you that the boost pump is running. You must manually reset it = back to single pump mode. This is the Eggenfelner design and you can = get part numbers and schematics on their site, if you're interested. =20 Mark S. =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Bill Bradburry Sent: Fri 11/24/2006 7:45 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Z-19 questions OK, This is my fall back position. I have posed this question on the Aerolectric list for a couple of days and no answer. (although the email did get caught up in an embarrasing event!) 90% of you guys have already wired your planes and followed Bob N's advice, so how did you do the redundancy on the fuel pumps, coils, and injectors? from the AE list: "I am installing a fuel injected Mazda rotary engine and trying to = follow the Z-19 guidelines for dual battery, single alternator. Looking = at the engine primary and secondary circuit, I need to install a primary = and secondary fuel pump, plus I want to power the coils and the = injectors off of the battery buss. How should I do this? I suppose I could take the fuel pump diode = output and switch it to either of the two fuel pumps??? What about the coils and injectors? Should I set up similar = circuits for them, or is there a better way to reduce parts??? I would appreciate any guidance you guys could give me. Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! 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