X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.1) with ESMTP id 1531371 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:45:55 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-098-162.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.98.162]) by ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id kA6EjHLm007872 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:45:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001901c701b2$39bc80d0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First flight, RV-8 N5093F Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:45:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C70188.509F0F90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C70188.509F0F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, you do, Finn {:>) Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Finn Lassen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:36 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First flight, RV-8 N5093F I don't know of any RV that does not have a rudder trim tab or wedge. Finn Gaylen Lerohl wrote: Listers, Give me a couple of days and I'll get back with design details and = more on in-flight results. Flew two more rides yesterday, 2.4 hours = total. I need some left rudder at all speeds. I'll review "P" Factor = material, do some careful measurements and see if some of the problem = can be shimmed out. I'll hold off messing with trim tabs if there is = another way.=20 At full throttle and stabilized level flight the engine is turning = 5200 RMP at 125 Kt indicated (no wheel pants or gear leg fairings) I = have a couple of ideas to try to improve power that I'll work on as = able. I haven't done an airspeed check yet. The left wing is heavy but = can be trimmed out. I'll wait awhile before massaging the aileron = trailing edge. =20 If the ball is centered, there is no wing drop in the stall. Cooling has not been an issue either on the ground or in the air. I = had about 12 hours ground running and lots of taxi time with the tail up = and down. There haven't been any serious issues with the engine = installation (yet!) There is a pesky oil leak (or seepage depending on = how anal one is!!). My hangar mate, who teaches diesel mechanics at the = local tech school, gave me some die and a black light to locate the = leak. The big one was the stock oil dipstick allowing oil to splash = out. Solved that with three small "o" rings pushed on to the dipstick = seal. There is still oil seeping around the back (front in the auto) = cover. At some point I'll pull the engine and reseal it, but not now. Yes Rusty, 13B nearly stock; 2.17 : 1 gearbox; EC2 Controller and = Tracy's 68 X 71 Performance prop. Stock oil cooler and a slightly = modified Griffin radiator used by the dune buggy guys with a Sirocco = engine. Stand by for more! Regards, Gaylen Lerohl ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 19:59 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First flight, RV-8 N5093F First flight today. =20 Congratulations Gaylen! The temps sure sound good.=20 How about refreshing our memory with some details of your = installation. I'm guessing 13B, with the 2.17 redrive and Tracy's old = prop. What are you using for oil and water cooling? I'm also curious what your empty weight and empty CG came out to. = FWIW, mine is 1080 lbs, with an empty CG of 76.0", which is pretty nose = heavy. =20 Cheers, Rusty (first engine run today, DAR next Sat) =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.28/518 - Release Date: = 11/4/2006 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C70188.509F0F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, you do, Finn {:>)
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered
Matthews,=20 NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.comhttp:/= /members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Finn=20 Lassen
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 = 9:36=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First = flight,=20 RV-8 N5093F

I don't know of any RV that does not have a rudder trim = tab or=20 wedge.

Finn

Gaylen Lerohl wrote:
Listers,
 
Give me a couple of days and I'll = get back=20 with design details and more on in-flight results.  Flew two = more rides=20 yesterday, 2.4 hours total.  I need some left rudder at all=20 speeds.  I'll review "P" Factor material, do some careful = measurements=20 and see if some of the problem can be shimmed out.  I'll hold = off=20 messing with trim tabs if there is another way. 
 
At full throttle and stabilized = level flight=20 the engine is turning 5200 RMP at 125 Kt indicated (no wheel pants = or gear=20 leg fairings)  I have a couple of ideas to try to improve power = that=20 I'll work on as able.  I haven't done an airspeed check = yet.  The=20 left wing is heavy but can be trimmed out.  I'll wait awhile = before=20 massaging the aileron trailing edge.  
 
If the ball is centered, there is = no wing drop=20 in the stall.
 
Cooling has not been an issue = either on the=20 ground or in the air.  I had about 12 hours ground running and = lots of=20 taxi time with the tail up and down.  There haven't been any = serious=20 issues with the engine installation (yet!)  There is a pesky = oil leak=20 (or seepage depending on how anal one is!!).  My hangar mate, = who=20 teaches diesel mechanics at the local tech school, gave me some die = and a=20 black light to locate the leak.  The big one was the stock oil = dipstick=20 allowing oil to splash out.  Solved that with three small "o" = rings=20 pushed on to the dipstick seal.  There is still oil seeping = around the=20 back (front in the auto) cover.  At some point I'll pull the = engine and=20 reseal it, but not now.
 
Yes Rusty, 13B nearly stock; 2.17 = : 1 =20 gearbox;  EC2 Controller and Tracy's 68 X 71 Performance=20 prop.   Stock oil cooler and a  slightly modified = Griffin=20 radiator used by the dune buggy guys with a Sirocco engine. =20 Stand by for more!
 
Regards,
Gaylen Lerohl
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy To:=20 Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 Sent:=20 Saturday, November 04, 2006 19:59 Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: First flight, RV-8 N5093F

First flight=20 today.   
 
Congratulations Gaylen!  The temps = sure=20 sound good.
 
How about refreshing our memory with = some details=20 of your installation.  I'm guessing 13B, with the 2.17 = redrive and=20 Tracy's old prop.  What are you using for oil and water=20 cooling?
 
I'm also curious what your empty weight = and empty CG came out to.  FWIW, mine is 1080 = lbs,=20 with an empty CG of 76.0", which is pretty=20 nose heavy.  
 
Cheers,
Rusty (first engine run today, DAR next = Sat)
 
 
 

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